Windows 10

u/brentmaas August 08, 2016, 04:54:04 PM

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on August 08, 2016, 04:37:58 PM
Does it mean my PC will still consume some power when shut down? All its lights and fans turns off once my PC shuts down but I was curious. Or do you mean it tries to keep things as intact as possible for the next shut down/boot?

No, it is actually powered down. It's more like a saved state being loaded at boot instead of going through the entire system initialization. This page gives a little more information and such about it.

u/Dream of Omnimaga August 08, 2016, 06:48:07 PM

Ah ok, and I assume there's a way to make the PC boot from scratch? Otherwise that could be nasty during a BSOD or another bad crash

u/ben_g August 08, 2016, 07:16:57 PM

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on August 08, 2016, 06:48:07 PM
Ah ok, and I assume there's a way to make the PC boot from scratch? Otherwise that could be nasty during a BSOD or another bad crash

Windows saves it's "state" on a normal shutdown from the start menu. Any other way of shutting down, like crashes, holding down the power button or clicking restart from the start menu, do not save that information and Windows will boot the old-fashioned way rather than using hybrid boot.

u/Dream of Omnimaga August 09, 2016, 04:28:45 AM

Oh right, that is a bit weird that a shutdown doesn't do it, while a restart does. But again, I guess they decided to treat restart as a way to fixing most things. At least it's nice to be able to shut down that way, because it takes less power and sometimes I prefer shutting down my PC so that it won't heat up my bedroom during 30°C nights

u/ben_g August 09, 2016, 12:34:57 PM

Restart always restarts completely because when you select 'restart' from the start menu, it's usually either because you want to fix something or when you installed something that needs a complete restart to become effective. In both of these cases saving/loading the state would be a bad idea. Also hybrid shutdown doesn't use any power while the computer is turned off. It's really just a matter of saving/loading data instead of having to initialize everything at startup.

u/GalacticPirate August 10, 2016, 11:03:48 AM

Of course Win10 will piss off those who update from an older OS with an older hardware, but independently from that it is still a great OS, even better than Win7 and waaaaaaaaaaaay better than 8.1
I ran it on a 27 inch 2013 iMac with 8 GB RAM and it was a great experience. Now that I've messed up the HDD partition on which it was installed, I really wanna reinstall it :p (don't ask me how I did that)

u/::CMG (UTOPIA):: August 10, 2016, 01:37:50 PM

Quote from: STV on August 10, 2016, 11:03:48 AM
Of course Win10 will piss off those who update from an older OS with an older hardware

i thought Microsoft prevented that from happening since that "upgrade from win7 to 10" notification/program checked your hardware specs and told you if it's compatible with the new OS or not. A few months ago I did that at my mom's job with all of her computers at the office and one of them prevented me from upgrading because the video card in the computer was not compatible, so I had to get a new nvidia card for it and then it started the upgrade (which was odd cause all the other towers had that built-in Intel Graphics and they were fine, its just that one specifically it said no to)

u/p2 August 12, 2016, 10:06:42 AM

I noticed win10 is indeed faster at botting and stuff BUT ONLY when setting up an entirely new system.
If you just use that update solution and keep your old stuff it will only make your computer slower, buggier, less stable and turn im into a stupid spying device

So if you dont intend to set up a new one I realy can't recommend windows10

It's widely known that windows computers do become much slower over time...
But it's kind of weird to see that it affects win10 even more than win7 computers...

(as you can see after upgrading)
I guess it's gona lead to a huge comeback of windows7 in a couple of years since until then all the win10 ones will be super slow >.<

u/Dream of Omnimaga August 12, 2016, 02:14:35 PM

Such slowdowns happens on every Windows OSes actually. I had the same issue on XP

u/c4ooo August 12, 2016, 03:50:10 PM

7 > vista > 8 > 10
'Num said.

u/Dream of Omnimaga August 12, 2016, 03:58:36 PM

On a side note, Windows 10 really wants to force youto use OneDrive. Everytime I close it it opens again

u/c4ooo August 12, 2016, 04:00:30 PM

Windows 10 is basicly bloatware. You should probably down grade back to 7 while you have the chance or switch to Linux.

u/Dream of Omnimaga August 12, 2016, 04:02:22 PM

I am good with it now. Just those little annoyances but otherwise I no longer have to wait 5-10 minutes for Windows 7 desktop to finish loading stuff.