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Started by DJ Omnimaga, July 27, 2016, 04:05:55 pm

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DJ Omnimaga

So I upgraded to Windows 10 yesterday. It said the system requirements are identical as Vista so I figured I would be fine, since my PC could run Windows 7 more than well. After several hours the upgrade was done. To my surprise, Starcraft: Brood War actually ran on Windows 10, sort-of, and it did not have the color bug from Windows 7 that caused colors to look funny. Of course Battle.net no longer works and I get memory violation errors upon exiting, but I guess there are fixes for that anyway. :P

Overall, I don't have issues so far, but the overall performance seems sub-par to Windows 7, despite Windows 10 being advertised as being faster and requiring similar specs as Vista/7/8/8.1. Startup now takes over 2 minutes instead of 30 seconds (excluding the time it takes once the desktop appeared to load background processes) and apps seems to take longer to start sometimes. I made sure that as many "Send data to MS" and "Sync" as possible are disabled to speed up performance further, but I'm sure I forgot some stuff (I noticed Windows 10 came with OneDrive, which I disabled. I'm glad it did not have my account info either because I bet it would have synced all my files without my permission otherwise).


So what has been the experience so far for people who upgraded?

semiprocoder

I have windows 10 on my laptop and its pretty good. It doesnt seem to have really any performance difference and it offers dx 12, which is good.
Not sure about being better than windows 7,but its obviously better than windows 8.

However, windows update is glitched on my desktop, so the windows 10 update has been stuck at "starting download" for like 2 days now(also windows update is taking a day to check updates, so I assume that all of windows update is glitched). My desktop currently has windows 7(so not horrible like win 8), but dx 12 is(at least currently) available only for windows 10, so that sucks.
My cemetech username is awesommee333.

DJ Omnimaga

So far in terms of being better I don't spot many differences that makes me like it more, but at least it's very similar to 7, so it was not hard to get used to it.

As for the performance it might be because my PC is old, but it was rather high-end when I got it (except graphics), so I assume it's because my 8 GB of RAM is only DDR3 and that my i7 CPU is first-gen. That said, it's not bad either, just not as fast as what I had. Something I like is that the Start menu allowed me to get rid of all icons on the side and resize it down so that it looks closer to Windows 95/98 menu.

I'll eventually download the tools and hacks required to fix Starcraft Brood War compatibility issues.

ben_g

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on July 27, 2016, 08:43:44 pm
...so I assume it's because my 8 GB of RAM is only DDR3...

The clock speed and latency is what matters most. High-end DDR3 should still be more than fast enough. DDR4 will eventually become the new standard, but I don't think it's worth the extra cost yet.

DJ Omnimaga

July 28, 2016, 12:17:01 am #4 Last Edit: July 28, 2016, 12:18:42 am by DJ Omnimaga
Are there multiple versions/revisions of DDR3, though? What my manufacturer says is "Speed: PC3-10600 MB/sec (message as PC3-8500)" and I would have 1333 or 1066 MHz RAM.



Anyway I just noticed a bug or issue with Windows 10, aside from the start and notification buttons stopping working after a long while: Why does the Windows settings/control panel menu open everytime I start my browser (Opera)?

Caleb Hansberry

I like Win10 for laptop tablet convertibles. But for anything else, it feels half-baked and looks bland compared to 7 to me. On my tablet, it runs decent, though does have some issues sometimes.  But on desktop, Windows 7 feels smooth, powerful, and pretty, and on 10 it looks cheap and is less reliable. Obviously looks is just personal preference but it really bugs me. I have 10 on my phone too and its quite buggy.

DJ Omnimaga

Yeah, although it improved a lot since its release, it still has a lot of annoying bugs or oddities. Also the windows look bland, although for the taskbar I was at least able to change the color.


Ivoah

This thread is quite appropriate. Right now I'm sitting in a freezing cold office waiting for windows 10 to download (for the 2nd time, first time didn't work). I was hired to upgrade 2 computers, and the first one is done. The 2nd one is at 66%. I hate windows...

DJ Omnimaga

Wow that sucks Ivoah. That said, I would LOVE to sit in that ice cold office right now, because it's over 85°F outside with high humidity and my cheap AC was just turned ON.


Btw does anyone know why Opera 36 opens Windows Choose default app screen everytime I start the browser up? I don't have this issue with Chrome nor Firefox and I have Opera set as my default browser. ???
Quote from: ::CMG (UTOPIA):: on July 28, 2016, 01:37:35 pm
Personally, I find this feature a necessity if you're going to use Win8/10
Thanks for the link. I forgot about Classic Shell.

Ivoah

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on July 28, 2016, 08:00:46 pm
Wow that sucks Ivoah. That said, I would LOVE to sit in that ice cold office right now, because it's over 85°F outside with high humidity and my cheap AC was just turned ON.

Hey, at least I'm getting paid :)

DJ Omnimaga

Ah ok that's good then. :) You can probably also put extra clothes under your suit (if any) I guess :P

DJ Omnimaga

On a side note, it seems that Windows 10 startup time becomes shorter and shorter a while after installing Windows 10. The first few reboots and startups are over twice as long as Windows 7, but eventually they end up being half as short because when the desktop finally appears it takes less time before it stops loading stuff.

brentmaas

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on August 08, 2016, 05:32:23 am
On a side note, it seems that Windows 10 startup time becomes shorter and shorter a while after installing Windows 10. The first few reboots and startups are over twice as long as Windows 7, but eventually they end up being half as short because when the desktop finally appears it takes less time before it stops loading stuff.
Yeah, win10 uses this thing callen hybridboot which is basically one step further than hybernation. I had to disable it, though, because my AV does not like it as it needs to do some stuff early in the boot.
Lel I glitched Omni

DJ Omnimaga

Does it mean my PC will still consume some power when shut down? All its lights and fans turns off once my PC shuts down but I was curious. Or do you mean it tries to keep things as intact as possible for the next shut down/boot?

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