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Post your calculator collection!

Started by Ivoah, June 19, 2015, 11:18:40 pm

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Duke "Tape" Eiyeron

Well, wouldn't that be a bit heavier than your regular calc?

Snektron

Also if they're gold plated a bit more expensive :P
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Duke "Tape" Eiyeron

That only depends of the width of the plating. :p

utz

June 28, 2015, 09:27:24 pm #33 Last Edit: June 28, 2015, 09:30:27 pm by utz
Quote from: Cumred_Snektron on June 22, 2015, 09:03:21 pm
Quote from: Ivoah on June 21, 2015, 05:09:23 pm
Quote from: Cumred_Snektron on June 21, 2015, 04:16:44 pmAlso C support? Officially or a ez80 c compiler like SDCC/KCC/z88dk?


Zilog (the creators of the z80 and ez80) have an official C compiler targeting the ez80


Thats awesome O.O
* Cumred_Snektron wants CE more now

Shame they didnt make one for z80 though :P


Well, Zilog didn't make one, but you can always use z88dk ;)

Speaking of calculator collection, I don't have a picture of mine... But, I recently got my first 68k model, woohoo! A TI92+ it is. What a huge clunker!

Snektron

I know about z88dk... but when i tried it it generated about 5 kb of code for a simple test program :P (though most of it might have been the heap)
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DJ Omnimaga

Yeah I heard back in 2004-05 that z88dk code was absolute crap and most people recommended to stay away from it at all cost. Not sure if that was true, though.

utz

Quite sure it was crap back then, but it has come a long way. It's just still quite difficult to use, and documentation is not always very helpful. E.g. those 5kb that Cumred mentioned are probably due to the fact that z88dk normally includes a platform-specific kernal, but that behaviour can be switched off. Somehow.

Unicorn

So it adds code/includes that increase the size of the file, but do nothing for the program on calc?



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utz

It depends. In some cases, having a seperate kernal is totally pointless, in other cases it can be very useful.* That is basically the main problem with z88dk - you need to know what you need and how to get it via command line switches etc, and that can sometimes be quite tricky to figure out. In terms of the actual code produced, z88dk is quite efficient - after all, they've had more than a decade to optimize the compiler ;)

*I haven't tried it for calcs actually, only played around a bit with it on ZX81. There, the z88dk kernal is indeed quite practical as it includes a full screen driver which replaces the not-so-versatile ROM driver.

Snektron

So you could use Z88dk better for things like OS developement in C?
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Unicorn

Hmm... It sounds like I wouldn't be able to understand how to set it up :P



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utz

Sorry for the late reply @Cumred_Snektron - to answer your question: Yes, it should be well suited for that.

@Unicorn yeah it's somewhat annoying to set it up, at least the betas releases (which have all the good stuff :D). The stable one build like a charm last time I tried it on Linux though.


DJ Omnimaga

So with the z88dk improvements, would people be better off using it instead of SDCC? I know that AHelper on Cemetech was working on GLassOS a few years ago and used SDCC and that seemed to be most people's choice back then too, but of course with Axe around, even fewer people thought about using C on Z80 calcs.

Snektron

If you don't mind about an additional 5 kb, probably
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Unicorn

On with the calculator collection, I think I'm going to do something with my Casio.... Or maybe not. :P



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