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WARNING: DO NOT UPGRADE your TI-83 Premium CE or TI-84 Plus CE to OS 5.5.1 and higher. It removes all compatibility with most games and removes ASM/C programming! DOWNGRADING IS IMPOSSIBLE. BE WARNED! Likewise, do NOT update your TI-Nspire CX past OS 4.5.0, else using Ndless and ASM/C programs will be impossible.

Wait... what now TI: TI-82 Advanced? O.O

Started by DJ Omnimaga, February 01, 2015, 04:07:33 am

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DJ Omnimaga

Thanks Eiyeron for the explanation. And yeah Cumred. But the most important thing is that it's much faster this way than having to deal with a slow LCD driver and having no direct LCD access. This is why demos shown so far in videos are much faster on the CE than the CSE.


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December 13, 2015, 01:33:18 am #47 Last Edit: December 13, 2015, 01:55:33 am by critor
After the huge success in France of the TI-82 Advanced, TI shares the same thing with the rest of the world under a different name.

Ladies and gentlemen, please proudly welcome the latest model in the TI-84 Plus line, the TI-84 Plus T :

It's running a whole new OS 5.x with many improvements to the previous 2.55MP version :
- exam mode now does flash a LED :)
- no crash - asm programs now won't run anymore :)
- no data loss - preloaded apps now cannot be removed anymore :)
- no memory problem - other apps now cannot be loaded anymore :)

Source : https://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17651&p=193334#p193334

DJ Omnimaga

That spells the end of monochrome Z80 programming >.<

I think they're trying to lure people towards the more expensive color models


This is NL only AFAWK, nothing to worry about for the rest of the world. Each major country can pretty much make TI abide by its (education ministry etc.) rules if it's profitable enough (for FR or NL, they kind of had to, since other TI calcs wouldn't have been accepted, to TI would have lost their market there, which isn't acceptable obviously...).
In France, sure we have the 82A, but at least we can still use the 83PCE, or better yet, the Nspire CX CAS.
Co-founder & co-administrator of TI-Planet and Inspired-Lua


Because you think TI did develop this new calculator with an *english* keypad only for NL ? :P

Try to anticipate a little. ;)


December 13, 2015, 08:18:28 pm #51 Last Edit: December 13, 2015, 10:51:08 pm by Adriweb
I'm mostly speaking about North America. The rest is much less important (though France might be the 2nd market for TI EdTech ? Oh well, at least the 83PCE is there)
I doubt the USA will change its current rules soon.
Co-founder & co-administrator of TI-Planet and Inspired-Lua

DJ Omnimaga

Yeah @Adriweb I was speaking in long terms. If the 82 Advanced and those school restrictions have spread to NL and some other European countries, then perhaps USA, Canada and the rest of the world are next.

However, the question is: Does the removal of APP and ASM support has something to do with test restrictions? Because in such case TI makes no sense, since they have ASM/APP support in their brand new 83 Premium CE and 84+CE (even the 84+CE T has ASM support). I'm thinking more that ASM/APP support is now pushed as an extra feature on higher end calcs. But again, we never know. Perhaps we are slowly headed towards an entire calculator line with no ASM/Flash support, in which case we will have to do like with the TI-82 and 85, or worse if TI patches the exploits we use, in which case it would be the same cat and mouse game that we had to play for years with Ndless, but on every calc.

Or who knows? Maybe ASM/Flash support will eventually become a paid DLC like in video games? <_<


Quote from: critor on December 13, 2015, 08:09:16 pm
Because you think TI did develop this new calculator with an *english* keypad only for NL ? :P

Try to anticipate a little. ;)

Well on the other hand France is the only country to ever have gotten translated calcs. :P I suppose they're keeping it in english for consistency.

DJ Omnimaga

December 13, 2015, 11:28:35 pm #54 Last Edit: December 13, 2015, 11:32:32 pm by DJ Omnimaga
Actually that could explain things.

I've been using forums since at least 2002 or so and the thing I have noticed among people who use alphabet for their native language is that people from France have by far the highest amount of troubles understanding English language overall. In the TI community I often ran into people on yAronet and the like who did not even know what "the", "cat" and "hello" meant in French. It probably has to do with English classes being very bad in France and the unilingual nature of their country, but because of that, companies had to adapt to the market by translating everything. Even video games were translated in French, in a day and time when it was not common.

Meanwhile, in Quebec province, where 7 million people (out of 8 ) speak French, most video games often came out in English only until recently and all most electronics have English buttons. The TI-83 Plus, 84 PLus and 84 Plus CE will generally come pre-loaded with the Fran├žais app, but it will not be enabled by default. On the other hand, not only we are much more exposed to English people (especially Montreal), but we are surrounded by states and provinces that are almost English-only.

DJ Omnimaga

I don't know if that's a(nother) mistake from TI, but I checked the Dutch site for the TI-84 Plus T and in the features both BASIC and ASM are listed as programming language: https://education.ti.com/nl/nederland/products/ti-84-plus/ti-84-plus-t/tabs/overview#tab=specifications

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