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Change The WalrusIRC

Started by xMarminq_, November 13, 2016, 12:36:26 am

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Edits go in IRC?

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Nuuuuu
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kotu

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c4ooo

What's the point of alerting people that an edit has been made if there's no way of telling where?

xMarminq_

Only if it is the most recent. I want this to help reduce double posting.
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kotu

Quote from: c4ooo on November 14, 2016, 02:04:43 am
What's the point of alerting people that an edit has been made if there's no way of telling where?


if someone's following you then they will be able to find the edit

it reduces information flooding in the chat box with this method.
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c4ooo

Omnimaga and cemetech have this and there's no information flood. Theres absolutely no point in "flooding" the chat (in quotes because one line of text isn't flooding) without telling where the change was made.

kotu

but there's something secretive and nice about making edits at the minute
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lazydogP

Well, editing posts has different reasons. Typo, wrong information, or just for fun. So it's better if there's a check box to choose whether you would like to show this. (Maybe a hidden tag in plain text could be handy and useful?)
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Streetwalrus

Not at all dj, sorunome pointed us to the right logic to determine whether to notify of an edit. Even the check box would be easy to do.

DJ Omnimaga

November 14, 2016, 08:29:40 am #23 Last Edit: November 14, 2016, 08:32:51 am by DJ Omnimaga
Streetwalrus yeah I meant if we decided to do it on our own without anyone's help. :P

As for what people said after my post, specifically @c4ooo , specifying what was changed in the post would not be feasible, because what if a 50000 character block of text was added/replaced in the post during the edit? Would the bot spams IRC with that entire change?

Also this would require us to start storing past versions of forum posts. This is feasible for the time being (via SMF mods that already exists for 2.0, but not for 2.1 yet), but we only have 30 GB of disk space on the server, which will fills up incredibly fast if we start storing every single version of each post.

Also I am against notifying of edits if it's done on the last post of a thread and that it has been over 24 hours since the last reply. We should still encourage topic bumping if it has already been 24 hours since the last post.


Even for older posts I would prefer if it was a checkbox option, for privacy reasons.

Yuki

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on November 14, 2016, 08:29:40 am
Also this would require us to start storing past versions of forum posts. This is feasible for the time being (via SMF mods that already exists for 2.0, but not for 2.1 yet), but we only have 30 GB of disk space on the server, which will fills up incredibly fast if we start storing every single version of each post.
No. In that case we would still link to the most recent version of that post. We don't need to put what changed on IRC either. It would say something along the lines of, Walrified edit by ThatGuy on ThisPost LinkOfPostHere.
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DJ Omnimaga

What c4ooo wants however is that what in the post has changed gets displayed on IRC by the bot. Or at least, that's what I am gathering from his post. IN any case, such idea would not be implemented.

c4ooo

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on November 14, 2016, 08:29:40 am
As for what people said after my post, specifically @c4ooo , specifying what was changed in the post would not be feasible, because what if a 50000 character block of text was added/replaced in the post during the edit? Would the bot spams IRC with that entire change?

As far as I understood, kotu was suggesting was only saying a change has been made, and not posting the link to the post. I never said the *change* should be posted in IRC ;)

DJ Omnimaga

Oh ok, but then not posting the link is counterproductive if it has been a long while since the last reply was made. People might be curious and want to read the post without having to search Google for the URL.

kotu

profile info -> show posts ??
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DJ Omnimaga

Then the user who is on IRC has to type the forum URL inside his browser bar manually, then find the user profile, then click show posts, then find the post, which could be an old post he edited and is on page 40-50 or so.

If we are gonna make it such hassle to see someone's post edits from IRC, then we might as well not implement them at all.

Omnimaga and Cemetech edits works fine other than the privacy issue for people who don't want a specific edit to appear publicly (eg an old personal-related post or unnecessary rehashing of old drama). I was only against that feature at first due to how spammy it can get when there is a 100+ posts day, but it's not like those happen often.

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