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Touchscreen Phones - who hates them?

Started by kotu, August 16, 2016, 05:41:54 am

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DarkestEx

I don't hate touchscreen phones but on-screen keyboards! Let them burn in hell!
So I got myself an hybrid: a BlackBerry Classic, which runs BlackBerry OS (based on QNX) but still has an Android VM and can run it's Apps.
It has 16 GB Flash, 2 GB RAM, a capacitive touchscreen with 720x720 pixels and a full QWERTZ (in my case) keyboard. It also has a little touchpad which makes navigation so much easier.
I am totally happy with it :)

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Before i got my current phone (Samsung Galaxy S4), I used to have the T-Mobile Sidekick brand of phones.  It was the best phone i ever had.  The keyboard felt nice and perfect for my "big-toe-like" thumbs, and i could text lightning fast.  Then they did away with that and made texting via the touch screen and I LOATH IT ENTIRELY!  My damn thumbs always press 2 letters at once, and it's gotten to the point where this app is a necessity for me.

aeTIos

I'm a bit mixed about touchscreens-I like them, but the keyboards are a bit eh. What i love about the recent smartphone revolution however is that the phones finally got a bit bigger again. my phone is broken atm and I now use an old nokia to be available for others and it sucks! not becauss of the keyboard or because the phone is so old ( I don't mind tbh) but I can almost put it INSIDE my ear. Also the mic in my nexus 5 is really good and noisefree even when I am calling on a bike or in a windy place. But yeah, large phones are <3
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DJ Omnimaga

I am ok with large phones as long as they fit in my pant pockets. I don't like having to carry an extra bag just to carry my phone around.

Also I dislike the newer Android touchscreen keyboard. Some important characters now takes longer to reach and caps lock often turns ON by itself. I prefered the one circa 2015 or so.

GalacticPirate

Sorry, but I absolutely LOVE touchscreen phones (of course capacitive ones). I fell in love with them when my father, who had a crappy HTC HD Touch with a poor resistive touchscreen, bought an iPhone 4S :P Now, with this iPhone and a screen almost smaller than the CX's one or the Prime's one, I feel bad because going on the Internet is freaking bad. So I absolutely love large and larger phone, such as the iPhone 6S Plus, the Galaxy S6 Edge+ (because more powerful  and larger than the S7 Edge) and now the newest Galaxy Note 7 :P

Travis

August 18, 2016, 05:24:33 pm #20 Last Edit: August 18, 2016, 05:28:06 pm by Travis
I haven't done much work with touchscreens yet, but I definitely wouldn't want to do any sort of text entry at all on a touchscreen keyboard. It's no good without tactile feedback and being able to feel where the buttons are; I shouldn't have to take my eyes off of whatever I'm doing. (And it shouldn't take an hour just to write two words.) Give me even a small "Chiclet" calculator-style keyboard any day... as long as it's actually accurate and reliable. If it misses and doubles keystrokes and crap like that, though, then it's worthless, too.

I've had bad experiences with older touchscreens and touchpads, so I'm currently pretty biased against them. However, there are some things, like swiping through documents, that I may actually come to like if it's all implemented correctly. But I've experienced bad implementations (like trying to scroll a page and it deciding I clicked a link instead and losing my place).

My big weakness with any sort of input device is that I have absolutely no patience for ones that don't interpret my inputs as I intended them.

Also, the other thing I hate about touchscreens is having to look at the freaking distracting fingerprints and smears all the time instead of what I'm trying to see. I can't stand stuff looking so dirty. >:(

p2

Yes youre right. The biggest problem of touch is the keyboard. It's always so small you dont even see the "keys" below your fingers and it's sooo dirty and full of fingerprints >.<
I thought a touch screen with external keyboard would work but even that's not really true since it's super annoying always having to change between keyboard and screen (for example using touchscreen notebooks and stuff) And external keyboards for Phones really suck...
Anyway war sucks. Just bring us your food instead of missiles  :P ~ DJ Omnimaga (11.10.2016 20:21:48)
if you cant get a jframe set up, draw stuff to it, and receive input, i can only imagine how horrible your game code is _._   ~ c4ooo (14.11.2016 22:44:07)
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make Walrii great again ~ DJ Omnimaga (28.11.2016 23:01:31)
God invented the pc, satan the smartphone I guess ~ p4nix (16.02.2017 22:51:49)

c4ooo

A good program interface should allow you to do *almost anything* without moving your hands from the keyboard to the mouse; thus on a PC the keyboard is the primery input device and the mouse secondary. (An obvious exception is gaming). With touch screen though, the "mouse" is your primery input device and the keyboard is secondary.

p2

Well I pretty much enjoy having both mouse and keyboard and moving one hand from mouse to kayboard to type something is fine... ^^ But in addition to that having to touch the screen is just too much... :/

But some laptops have this little red thing between the keys that acts like a super flat joystick and lets you move the mouse around. (I hope you know what I mean). My laptop doesnt have one so I never used them... Are they handy and cool to use or just useless?

Edit: I hope I'm not getting too offtopic sorry for that ^^
Anyway war sucks. Just bring us your food instead of missiles  :P ~ DJ Omnimaga (11.10.2016 20:21:48)
if you cant get a jframe set up, draw stuff to it, and receive input, i can only imagine how horrible your game code is _._   ~ c4ooo (14.11.2016 22:44:07)
If they pull a Harambe on me tell my family I love them ~ u/Pwntear37d (AssangeWatch /r/)
make Walrii great again ~ DJ Omnimaga (28.11.2016 23:01:31)
God invented the pc, satan the smartphone I guess ~ p4nix (16.02.2017 22:51:49)

Travis

I believe they were called TrackPoint by IBM (or AccuPoint when licensed to Toshiba). I once had a laptop with one, and while it took some getting used to, I came to appreciate being able to move the mouse without taking my hands off the keyboard.

A while back I bought a Unicomp keyboard with one, thinking it would be cool to have. Unfortunately, the design was poor and the point moves excessively like a joystick, lessening accuracy. (It's supposed to be stiff and not move, and the electronics actually detect the amount and direction of the force you place on it when you try to push it.) Also, it lacked a scroll wheel/buttons, middle button (important in Linux GUIs), and the buttons are really crappy for the high price of that keyboard and broke easily and now barely work at all. So it wasn't very useful, and it was a big disappointment. I still use my separate Logitech M750 trackball as my main pointing device.

DJ Omnimaga

Something I wonder is if the touchscreen of a phone gets worse after many uses? For example, with my Nexus 5 I noticed I could type anything almost perfectly when I first got it, but after almost 2 years it seemed like pressing letter keys on the touchscreen keypad pressed the wrong letter more and more often with the time, to the point where some keys would sometimes stop working or close.

123outerme

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on August 31, 2016, 06:32:45 pm
Something I wonder is if the touchscreen of a phone gets worse after many uses? For example, with my Nexus 5 I noticed I could type anything almost perfectly when I first got it, but after almost 2 years it seemed like pressing letter keys on the touchscreen keypad pressed the wrong letter more and more often with the time, to the point where some keys would sometimes stop working or close.

It's possible that as you were using your phone more, the fingerprints and smears that accumulate on the screen make touch less accurate. Personally, I enjoy the convenience of touchscreen phones, although sometimes figuring out what it wants you to do to get what you want to happen is a bit frustrating.

c4ooo

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on August 31, 2016, 06:32:45 pm
Something I wonder is if the touchscreen of a phone gets worse after many uses? For example, with my Nexus 5 I noticed I could type anything almost perfectly when I first got it, but after almost 2 years it seemed like pressing letter keys on the touchscreen keypad pressed the wrong letter more and more often with the time, to the point where some keys would sometimes stop working or close.

I've noticed on my friend's iPad some areas near the edges of the screen react very poorly to touch. Like for example in this one game, some UI buttons are very hard to press (you have to try pressing it multiple times for it to work), and in all apps the keyboard has some keys that seem "dead" and don't react the first time you press them.

Juju

My friend had the whole bottom part of the screen stop working, rendering his device pretty much unusable. He got it replaced.
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DJ Omnimaga

Quote from: c4ooo on September 01, 2016, 03:32:21 am
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on August 31, 2016, 06:32:45 pm
Something I wonder is if the touchscreen of a phone gets worse after many uses? For example, with my Nexus 5 I noticed I could type anything almost perfectly when I first got it, but after almost 2 years it seemed like pressing letter keys on the touchscreen keypad pressed the wrong letter more and more often with the time, to the point where some keys would sometimes stop working or close.

I've noticed on my friend's iPad some areas near the edges of the screen react very poorly to touch. Like for example in this one game, some UI buttons are very hard to press (you have to try pressing it multiple times for it to work), and in all apps the keyboard has some keys that seem "dead" and don't react the first time you press them.
In my case, the bottom of my Nexus 5 does that sometimes, or most of the screen (especially the middle), but restarting the phone usually improves the touchscreen sensitivity. I also experienced issues where in Pokémon Go the touchscreen suddenly stops responding to anything in the game, except exiting the game. <_< But yeah, overall I think my touchscreen was better when I first got the phone. I hate now how sometimes clicking a link will click the link two lines of text above, although it's nowhere as bad as when I had an iPod Touch 4 (where I had the issue right from the beginning).

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