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withgusto downsizing + migration (main server + ZNC)
« on: March 18, 2016, 04:13:25 pm »
First and foremost, I apologize for not posting this earlier! I completely forgot about this site when posting about this, so I really, really apologize for that! If you need more time to fill out the forms, just let me know!

If you are a former or current withgusto user (either with the shell services or ZNC), please read! We are moving and downsizing due to various circumstances.

If you happen to use ZNC, expect downtime starting at 9 PM EDT tonight! (RDNS downtime starting at 5 PM EDT as well - avoid reconnecting to IRC during that time.)

The details are really important - please read below for more info!

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Apologies for the double post! (A certain someone is permitting me to do it, just this once!)

@Juju @Streetwalrus @shmibs: I haven't gotten any response regarding ZNC usage - please fill that out as soon as possible! Thanks!

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I have an account on your ZNC?
Lol.
I don't really have a use for mine anymore. Do I need to fill out the form ?
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I have an account on your ZNC?
Lol.
I don't really have a use for mine anymore. Do I need to fill out the form ?

@Juju: yup you do! OmniNET only apparently...
@Streetwalrus: use the main server form and state that you don't want to use the services anymore!

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Too bad you had to wind down some of the long-time Wihtgusto services albert, but I can totally understand why. On CW we tried to keep costs to a minimum because money doesn't grow in trees. To keep the site running we pay $12 a month (this includes a $2 backup feature that we could probably do away with if we had a second backup source besides @Streetwalrus (so if he's away for example we have an alternative or vice-versa), but in CW case it's made even harder by the fact that two of the staff are paid in Canadian dollars, but the site hosting is paid in US dollars. But basically the Minecraft server had to be hosted on a separate connection (currently running off Juju's internet at home).

I'm glad that Withgusto is staying alive in one form or another, though, but more importantly, I'm glad to see you around again in the community :walrii:


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Too bad you had to wind down some of the long-time Wihtgusto services albert, but I can totally understand why. On CW we tried to keep costs to a minimum because money doesn't grow in trees. To keep the site running we pay $12 a month (this includes a $2 backup feature that we could probably do away with if we had a second backup source besides @Streetwalrus (so if he's away for example we have an alternative or vice-versa), but in CW case it's made even harder by the fact that two of the staff are paid in Canadian dollars, but the site hosting is paid in US dollars. But basically the Minecraft server had to be hosted on a separate connection (currently running off Juju's internet at home).
Yeah, $15/mo was pretty unsustainable for me... :( Interesting to hear $12/month though - which service are you guys using?

I'm glad that Withgusto is staying alive in one form or another, though, but more importantly, I'm glad to see you around again in the community :walrii:
Thanks! I'm probably going to be in and out, but I'll definitely be hanging out more on IRC!

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Guess I should start posting more! ;)


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In my case, it's not that $12/mo (which is more like $17/mo in Canadian dollars) is unsustainable for me, since I have a full time job, but in USA university and college tuition fees are 20-100 times higher than in Canada sometimes, which ruins many people, and I often hear that even in rural areas an appartment is very expensive compared to over here. >.<

In our cases, we used the basic services with a $10/mo plan (1 GB RAM, single-core, 30 GB SSD and 2 TB transfer, plus the weekly backup service that is $2 a month that once made things much easier to restore the site from a major incident. Back then, none of the staff could perform backups off-site to their computer at home or something, so we had to rely on DigitalOcean's. But now Streetwalrus performs daily backups on his server at home so if, for example, aeTIos decided to do the same, then we could probably do away with that paid service. Besides that we are not using any other special services I think. I also forgot if this is a managed or unmanaged VPS, since I don't run it myself.
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Yeah, the $10/month plan is enough for what we need, nginx/PHP, email and a few IRC bots. Unless we constantly withstand a Slashdot effect, I think we'll be okay.
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I'm actually curious about how well the server would do against a Slashdot effect, such as if a notable calc game was posted on Reddit...
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@Streetwalrus: use the main server form and state that you don't want to use the services anymore!
Alright, done.
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withgusto ZNC Migration Complete!
Thanks to everyone for their patience. We have now successfully migrated from our old server to this shiny new one!

  • You can still connect with the old server name, without any configuration changes. You can use the alternative server name if you are having issues.
  • The web interface is now only accessible via the new URL (sent via email). No more ports needed! This should help with any firewalls preventing you from getting out.
  • We have changed the SSL certificate from withg.org's ComodoSSL to the new Let's Encrypt! The old SSL certificates tend to cost around $10/year... why pay that when you can get it for free? :D
    • There's a custom renewal system in place for Let's Encrypt - the regular one is a bit memory heavy daemon-wise, and we only have 128 MBs of RAM on this server!
    • We decided to use https://github.com/diafygi/acme-tiny in place of that, along with a custom setup to update the certs for both our web server and ZNC. This is something I've been working on as an experiment on a cheap, smaller VPS, and so far it has been working well on that one - Let's Encrypt on a 64 MB VPS!
    • That said, despite testing, things can always still break in the future - please let us know if you have any problems with connecting to ZNC!
  • In addition, we have upgraded all of our SSL to super strength (A+ on the SSL test)! We figured that if we have time to migrate, we should have time to do security right!
  • Beyond that, we also enabled Cloudflare SSL. However, with the free Cloudflare SSL, this comes at a cost - IE on Windows XP will no longer be supported. Specifically, SNI support is not available at all on Windows XP via IE. However, if you are on Windows XP, using Firefox or Chrome will still work. Those browsers do not use Windows XP APIs, and bundle their own support for SNI. To say that again - if you are on Windows XP, just use Firefox/Chrome and things will work! If you must use IE on Windows XP for whatever reason, please let me know. If there is a serious need, I may be able to set something up for you!
  • Internally, logs have been converted to the new directory-based structure. It used to be all stored in one directory, resulting in thousands and thousands of files (and slowness)! For currently active users, this has been reorganized - you do not have to do anything on your part. In the future, we may be using this new structure for some potential new ZNC features down the road... stay tuned!
  • This time around, we're hoping for much better uptime! From initial impressions, ZNC seems to be faster at connecting to IRC, and most (if not all) of the BindHosts are resolving correctly. In addition, since this server is separate from the main one, uptime should hopefully be better - less impact from other people on the server! (In fact, the only person on this server is me!)
  • Enough technical stuff. Finally, we have some awesome new hostnames available for the picking! (Totally not inspired from rcfreak0! :P)

    Here is the list:
    znc.withg.org
    team.windows.znc.withg.org
    team.linux.znc.withg.org
    team.mac.znc.withg.org
    fancy.schmancy.znc.withg.org
    powered.by.the.amazing.znc.withg.org
    dont.look.behind.this.znc.withg.org
    food.for.thought.znc.withg.org
    yum.znc.withg.org
    sparkles.znc.withg.org


    Under your user settings, simply change your BindHost to your favorite, then click Save at the bottom. You can also change this per network if you want different hostnames on different networks.
  • znc-push has also been installed. If you have PushBullet (or some other push messaging app), and you want notifications whenever someone on IRC highlights you or PMs you, this is for you! (It basically allows you to get important notifications from IRC on your phone, desktop, etc.)
  • That's it! If you haven't already, and you are a ZNC user, please fill this out: http://goo.gl/forms/VFvTjFVpke



In my case, it's not that $12/mo (which is more like $17/mo in Canadian dollars) is unsustainable for me, since I have a full time job, but in USA university and college tuition fees are 20-100 times higher than in Canada sometimes, which ruins many people, and I often hear that even in rural areas an appartment is very expensive compared to over here. >.<

In our cases, we used the basic services with a $10/mo plan (1 GB RAM, single-core, 30 GB SSD and 2 TB transfer, plus the weekly backup service that is $2 a month that once made things much easier to restore the site from a major incident. Back then, none of the staff could perform backups off-site to their computer at home or something, so we had to rely on DigitalOcean's. But now Streetwalrus performs daily backups on his server at home so if, for example, aeTIos decided to do the same, then we could probably do away with that paid service. Besides that we are not using any other special services I think. I also forgot if this is a managed or unmanaged VPS, since I don't run it myself.
Ah, DigitalOcean - that's one of the options that I may switch to, or potentially a 512 MB server from them. I was thinking Linode, since the prices are similar and I know someone who owns one!

I'm not sure if the site has any sort of Cloudflare protection on it, but if a Slashdot thing ever occurred, you could potentially use their caching service to keep things sane. Maybe some server side caching too... but without a doubt, I think you guys will be fine!

@Streetwalrus: Just saw, thanks! :D
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At least it wasn't postponed again like the other time :P

Also, interesting host names you got there. :P
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@Juju @DJ Omnimaga Do you have a DigitalOcean code that I can use? I want the $10 credit, and I'd prefer if the referral went to someone I know! :D

 


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