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What if Google suddenly disappeared entirely?

Started by DJ Omnimaga, December 26, 2015, 02:35:55 am

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c4ooo

Quote from: Streetwalrus on January 04, 2016, 08:24:26 pm
Quote from: alexgt on January 04, 2016, 04:26:43 pm
But google is so useful :P I mostly just use it as a search engine thought.

Yeah that's the point. I stopped using things such as google calendar/contacts/whatever, even the play store isn't welcome on my phone anymore. I still do use search, youtube and translate and I'm strongly considering getting off gmail too.

Getting of of Gmail? Do you want me to buy you microsoft outlook? :trollface:
Well the google services i use are the search engine, chrome, gmail, and google translate ;)
Ohh and i forgot youtube _._

Streetwalrus

Nah, self hosted mail, or a more private mail service run by someone I know I can trust.

c4ooo

Edward snowden uses google iirc ^.^
The thing is a self hosted one is eiser to say hack then google, and google cant read your emails anyway because they are encrypted. If you self host you also reveal your ip, which increases the risk of getting hacked ect...

Streetwalrus

There are two sides to privacy: identity disclosure and having your every move tracked. I don't mind anyone knowing who I am, I do however care about not being watched when I do my casual stuff.
Google can effectively access your email because even if it's encrypted, they do have the key. Email was not designed with encryption in mind, you can encrypt the contents with PGP but that's it. And they do use your email's contents for advertising (though I don't actually see said advertising because I use an ad blocker and I don't use the webmail anyway).
Gmail and privacy = no.
As far as security is concerned, your own mail server is as secure as you make it. Also a VPS is inexpensive so your actual IP doesn't need to be known by people you exchange email with, as you're not hosting it at home.

c4ooo

Ohh, i thought google could not read your emails :(
Also i have no idea what an VPS is :(

DJ Omnimaga

I'm late, but yeah Google privacy record is questionable and I wouldn't trust them about not reading my e-mail nor selling my info to third-parties. However, I don't mind them accessing my content as much as I mind the NSA doing so, simply because Google probably doesn't give rats about what I do on the Internet compared to the NSA, at least except maybe to optimize their server performance and change their services based on what people like or use the most or to provide relevant adsense.

But yeah on Google I only use Gmail, the search and Youtube. Most other stuff like Google Code and Google+ was already obsolete before they became a thing, IMHO, because they couldn't compete against Github, Codeplex, SourceForge and Facebook.

Dudeman313

I just kinda wish for a single service I could use for everything, which Google is trying to do, but there are just too many other things that Google can't recreate or connect to- like Windows 10 and Microsoft services. It's for this reason, that even though I use my Google account for nearly everything, I still require a Microsoft account, an Apple account and several others, though sites that let you sign up/in w/ Google helps.
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semiprocoder

Unfortunately, if there were a single service for everything, making you require only one account, then that one corporation that controls that service would have 100% market share, thus monopolising the bussiness. That would not be good at all for anyone.
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Juju

Yeah, monopoly has its pros and cons. We would all like if we'd have one single service for everything on the Internet, but that would have its share of problems. A few years ago, OpenID was kinda popular and one of the first services to tackle this problem. It was nice because you'd have a single account for everything that implements OpenID, but different companies and services can provide an OpenID, such as Google or even CodeWalrus if we decided to do that. It was decentralized, you'd type the URL to your account page on your favourite website and you'd login this way with said website. Nowadays, social networks are the popular way to login, each one of them provides their own proprietary but kinda works the same "Login with Facebook/Twitter/GitHub/etc.", and you end up having a bunch of such buttons on every login page.

For the record, CodeWalrus supports pretty much everything I mentioned and even more. You have quite a lot of options when you login here :P
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aeTIos

Quote from: c4ooo on January 04, 2016, 08:36:40 pm
Ohh, i thought google could not read your emails :(
Also i have no idea what an VPS is :(

A VPS is a virtual private server: which is pretty much a server. Uhh, look it up.
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DarkestEx

Some time ago I saw an interesting talk that is to a similar problem with Google:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=y4GB_NDU43Q

aeTIos

Haha, @c4ooo already posted that . But yeah, that talk was really interesting.
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