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Poll
Question: What Browser Do You Use?
Option 1: Chrome votes: 7
Option 2: Edge (Formerly Internet Explorer. Vote here if you use IE as well) votes: 0
Option 3: Mozilla Firefox votes: 5
Option 4: Other votes: 2
Title: What Browser Do You Use?
Post by: xMarminq_ on December 16, 2016, 06:23:48 pm
Anyone?
Title: Re: What Browser Do You Use?
Post by: Sorunome on December 16, 2016, 06:24:51 pm
IMO chrome is a bad browser because it spies on you in tons of way and keeps relaying data to google and thelike.....

Anyhow, I use firefox. Also, foxes are awesome :3
Title: Re: What Browser Do You Use?
Post by: Juju on December 16, 2016, 06:26:54 pm
Vivaldi. Based on Chromium, but it's not Chrome.
Title: Re: What Browser Do You Use?
Post by: Hayleia on December 16, 2016, 07:14:33 pm
Firefox. See this topic if you're bored and want to know why I chose that: https://codewalr.us/index.php?topic=1660.msg46563#msg46563
Title: Re: What Browser Do You Use?
Post by: Streetwalrus on December 16, 2016, 10:54:18 pm
Quote from: Sorunome on December 16, 2016, 06:24:51 pm
IMO chrome is a bad browser because it spies on you in tons of way and keeps relaying data to google and thelike.....

Well you can use chromium or even one of the numerous patchsets to make it less spyish. Otherwise it's much faster and has less weird bugs than Firefox so I've been using it as my main browser for a while. I want to switch to Qutebrowser at some point, or maybe back to Firefox when Servo lands (if it ever does...).
Title: Re: What Browser Do You Use?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 16, 2016, 11:33:09 pm
I can't judge if Firefox is worse or better, but I've used Opera for so long that I kinda feel comfortable enough with it to not switch. I made the switch to the Chromium-based one despite not liking the lack of a classic menu bar at first. As for Firefox, back in 2005 I remember it froze every few minute for no reason so I gave up on it. I tried it again every now and then during the next decade, but discovered that while it got more stable, it startup times are still longer than the current versions of Opera.

As for Edge, I never launched it once on this computer. I don't even know what its setup screen looks like (if any)
Title: Re: What Browser Do You Use?
Post by: gameblabla on December 17, 2016, 10:43:14 pm
Firefox, without any hesitations.
It's mostly open-source (not fully sadly since the DRM introduction), it's not controlled by evil giants (like Google with Google Chrome or Apple with WebKit),
it's secure (if you remove the DRMs, please sign the petition (https://www.change.org/p/mozilla-remove-drm-from-firefox)), it doesn't snoop like Edge or worse Chrome/Chronium and it has tons of extensions.
The extensions i love the most are Noscript, Cookie Controller, Canvas Blocker and Ublock Origin.
Only one of them is available on other browsers. (it's Ublock Origin, which is also available on Edge and Opera)

Due to the DRM issue, i kind of wish there was a better browser out there than Firefox that isn't based on Webkit or Blink.
There's Konqueror i guess, which isn't too bad but there are no way to add extensions to them.
Netsurf is pretty cool on an old computer but javascript support is still a work-in-progress.
Dillo is way too primitive and does not even render pages currently at the moment. (they are working on HTML5 support tho)

Pale Moon might be worth considering but the developers behind sometimes act like assholes, especially toward derivatives.
Title: Re: What Browser Do You Use?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 18, 2016, 09:42:45 pm
I wonder if new versions of Opera based on Chromium spies on you like Chromium does...
Quote from: gameblabla on December 17, 2016, 10:43:14 pmDillo


O.O
Title: Re: What Browser Do You Use?
Post by: gameblabla on December 18, 2016, 09:52:28 pm
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on December 18, 2016, 09:42:45 pm
I wonder if new versions of Opera based on Chromium spies on you like Chromium does...

Funny you're asking that.
Last time i tried, it was pinging back to opera.com even with the startup screen disabled.
Opera Turbo is also in some way a spy because theorically, it's a man-in-the-middle proxy.
Like any standard or cloud-based proxies actually.

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on December 18, 2016, 09:42:45 pmDillo
O.O

I swear it's called like that :P
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dillo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dillo)
Title: Re: What Browser Do You Use?
Post by: Juju on December 19, 2016, 06:30:58 am
Been a while I checked on Dillo, but it's designed to work on devices as low as the 486 with almost no memory. Of course, speed comes with a price, it does not support everything and fancy websites relying on latest technology will not render correctly. Still useful when you want a web browser on a distro that fits in 12 MB.
Title: Re: What Browser Do You Use?
Post by: Streetwalrus on December 19, 2016, 06:46:41 am
Blink can be stripped of pretty much all of the pingbacks actually. Qt webengine is based on it, and I'm fairly positive it's privacy-friendly.
Title: Re: What Browser Do You Use?
Post by: Juju on December 19, 2016, 07:35:55 am
Does Blink work better standalone, without all the stuff that comes with Chrome? Might be useful for my less powerful computers.

Speaking of which, what would work better on those?
Title: Re: What Browser Do You Use?
Post by: Streetwalrus on December 19, 2016, 07:53:30 am
Well there are some other browsers using it. Vivaldi is a gutted chromium more than a new browser built on blink, but there's qupzilla iirc which uses webengine.
Midori could work too. I think a good way to speed chromium up would be to change the multiprocess mode to something less memory hungry, see here (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Chromium/Tips_and_tricks#Reduce_memory_usage).
Title: Re: What Browser Do You Use?
Post by: p2 on December 19, 2016, 08:34:07 am
Firefox for work-related stuff, Chromium (not chrome) for *everything* and Vivaldi for private stuff ^^
If I had to chose one it would be firefox :)

I guess noone would dare voting for IE... :trollface:
Title: Re: What Browser Do You Use?
Post by: gameblabla on December 19, 2016, 09:01:17 am
Vivaldi for private stuff, lol...
Using vivaldi is even worse than using Chronium because it's entirely proprietary.
I don't care what the devs have to say, we can't trust them.
It might not be as bad a Marathon but still, there's no way to review it. (like Opera)

Quotebut there's qupzilla iirc which uses webengine.

I completely forgot about Qupzilla, it's a pretty good browser but again, no alternatives to noscript or cookie controller.
Same for Midori, plus it's quite unstable. I don't know if they have improved that.
Another browser is Otter-QT5, which is based on Webkit.

I like the idea behind Pale Moon but the only ppa carring it is now outdated...
Which means i have to recompile it every time they make a release.
Title: Re: What Browser Do You Use?
Post by: p2 on December 19, 2016, 09:09:41 am
nothing secret or personal, just ment "not work-related" as this device is for work stuff.
So I moved all private stuff in another browser which I dont open except when taking a break :)
Title: Re: What Browser Do You Use?
Post by: Streetwalrus on December 19, 2016, 09:35:51 am
Quote from: gameblabla on December 19, 2016, 09:01:17 am
I completely forgot about Qupzilla, it's a pretty good browser but again, no alternatives to noscript or cookie controller.

Not sure if this is already implemented, but webengine should allow chrome extensions to be used, so you could give umatrix a try. I'm not sure about cookie controller (though it has some cookie features), but it definitely has everything noscript does and is much better. It's by the same author and shares code with ublock origin.
Title: Re: What Browser Do You Use?
Post by: p2 on December 19, 2016, 09:44:47 am
aah, uMatrix, I really like that one ^^
It gives you much better ways of blocking specific stuff compared to NoScript (using both) ^^
Title: Re: What Browser Do You Use?
Post by: Streetwalrus on December 19, 2016, 09:55:45 am
You don't need them both though, since you can configure umatrix to do noscript's job.
Title: Re: What Browser Do You Use?
Post by: p2 on December 19, 2016, 09:57:27 am
I have noscript set to filter the worst s*** while my uMatrix is super detailed with thousands of settings, so whenever I do need JS functionality anyways I can deactivate uMatrix but still have the worst stuff blocked by NoScript :) (So I dont have to change lots of settings everytime and still dont have to allow too much stuff) ^^
Title: Re: What Browser Do You Use?
Post by: Streetwalrus on December 19, 2016, 10:00:23 am
That works, but then why not use ublock instead?
Title: Re: What Browser Do You Use?
Post by: p2 on December 19, 2016, 10:02:06 am
erm.... actually I never heard of it before...  9_9
Title: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: What Browser Do You Use?
Post by: Streetwalrus on December 19, 2016, 10:04:16 am
Well it's the same "engine" as umatrix (make sure you use ublock origin, not the other version), but with less fine-grained controls and adblock compatibility for blocklists. You need to enable advanced mode to manually block scripts and such.
Title: Re: What Browser Do You Use?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on December 19, 2016, 02:22:29 pm
Quote from: Juju on December 19, 2016, 06:30:58 am
Been a while I checked on Dillo, but it's designed to work on devices as low as the 486 with almost no memory. Of course, speed comes with a price, it does not support everything and fancy websites relying on latest technology will not render correctly. Still useful when you want a web browser on a distro that fits in 12 MB.
Could it run on the Nspire CX with a wifi dongle if Linux is still supported?
Title: Re: What Browser Do You Use?
Post by: p2 on December 19, 2016, 02:36:37 pm
wait... there's a way to get a linux running on an nSphire CX (CAS)? O.O
Title: Re: What Browser Do You Use?
Post by: Juju on December 19, 2016, 07:11:45 pm
Vivaldi has tab suspending integrated, which is pretty useful.

And yeah, there's a way to put Linux on an nSpire CX, if you plug a wifi dongle in there there's definitely a way to browse the web.
Title: Re: What Browser Do You Use?
Post by: p2 on December 19, 2016, 07:28:53 pm
can you link a tutorial for that? O.O I definitely want to do that!! :D
Title: Re: What Browser Do You Use?
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on March 16, 2017, 05:38:34 am
Quote from: p2 on December 19, 2016, 02:36:37 pm
wait... there's a way to get a linux running on an nSphire CX (CAS)? O.O
I'm late replying to this, but there's Linucx, which was worked on on Omni around 2012-13 or so. There's a long thread about it there called Calling all Linux devs or something. It was mostly abandoned, though.