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Another shocking government trick to spy on us (Printers involved)

Started by DarkestEx, April 28, 2015, 11:04:49 PM

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aetios

They probably can but then they'd have to send almost half the country to jail.
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Dudeman313

Breaking news guys! Apple REFUSED to help the FBI! That's one tough fruit. :walrii:
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Ivoah

Quote from: Dudeman313 on February 25, 2016, 11:38:47 PM
Breaking news guys! Apple REFUSED to help the FBI! That's one tough fruit. :walrii:

You're a couple days late ;)
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aetios

That's indeed not very breaking anymore 9_9 Still I agree its a tough move.
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Dudeman313

They formally refused today. I just watched Tim Cook on BBC.
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DarkestEx

What a PR motivated move. Secretly they are probably going to help anyways.
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Dudeman313

Maybe. Maybe not. The way Apple's CEO explained it, it sounded as if they were worried about a possible decrease in sales because of the public becoming vulnerable.
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Dream of Omnimaga

Quote from: Ivoah on February 25, 2016, 11:39:21 PM
Quote from: Dudeman313 on February 25, 2016, 11:38:47 PM
Breaking news guys! Apple REFUSED to help the FBI! That's one tough fruit. :walrii:

You're a couple days late ;)
Also another thing to note is that "refused" doesn't mean the FBI won't appeal. Plus maybe the FBI or NSA will find ways (such as $$$$$$) to make Apple cave in.
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Lionel Debroux

Multiple 0-day vendors have made public statements along the lines of "hey FBI, buy some 0-day exploits from us and you'll have what you want".
The business model of stockpiling on vulnerabilities and reselling to the highest bidder (I'm oversimplifying a bit, but not so much) is despicable and dangerous.
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Dream of Omnimaga

Seems like they didn't even need Apple to unlock the iPhone, after all:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/29/technology/apple-iphone-fbi-justice-department-case.html

But given poor transparency records from companies in the world in the past, I wouldn't be surprised if Apple were bribed to secretely help them...
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Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on March 30, 2016, 07:32:34 PM
Seems like they didn't even need Apple to unlock the iPhone, after all:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/29/technology/apple-iphone-fbi-justice-department-case.html
But given poor transparency records from companies in the world in the past, I wouldn't be surprised if Apple were bribed to secretely help them...
I don't think Apple were bribed, the fbi doesn't even need to, as apple isn't doing exactly a great job at protecting users.
(except to prevent jailbreaks, that is)
Farook most likely had a weak password and the FBI probably found a way to brute-force it.

They have yet to reveal what was inside the phone... Farook probably became a terrorist after playing Angry Birds too much :p

If you actually value your privacy, yuo should use a Linux distro or BSDs and encrypt it.
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Dream of Omnimaga

Yeah true. Now that reminds me, could USA have attacked Russia in order to retrieve Snowden when he was there? It would have been a stupid move that could backfire, but I am curious if that could have been considered? And what if a second person pulled a Snowden and hid there?
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