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Title: Don't use Windows 7 legacy Backup on Windows 10
Post by: brentmaas on February 23, 2016, 10:46:36 PM
Long story short; about three months ago I wanted to use said program to create a backup of my Windows 10 machine. It failed again and again, and a thorough chkdsk revealed that every single cluster of the external HDD it was writing to was marked bad.

Today I managed to get myself to have a look at it. Interestingly, a little digging with diskpart made me discover that -8MB (yes, negative 8 megabytes) was free for usage. I erased the partition and did a full format, taking about 6,5h. So far I seem to be able to create txt-files on it again, another chkdsk will be done to confirm the disk's functionality.

I now believe Windows 7 legacy Backup raped (most accurate expression) the poor disk's MBR.

tl;dr: Window 7 legacy Backup destroys external harddisks on Windows 10.
Title: Re: Don't use Windows 7 legacy Backup on Windows 10
Post by: Dudeman313 on February 23, 2016, 11:22:14 PM
This is....just....disturbing.....

Sorry about your computer, tho. :walrii:
Title: Re: Don't use Windows 7 legacy Backup on Windows 10
Post by: brentmaas on February 23, 2016, 11:55:27 PM
Quote from: Dudeman313 on February 23, 2016, 11:22:14 PM
This is....just....disturbing.....

Sorry about your computer, tho. :walrii:
Thanks :P, my computer seems to be a little drunk sometimes. Recently, an update failed that prevented me from using the start menu, but this failed update had symptoms similar to an imminent harddisk failure. Spent the whole afternoon transferring files and staring at chkdsk C: until I did a system restore. The only reason I tried system restore last is that if my disk would actually fail, I wouldn't be able to forgive myself for losing 500GB of data that I had gathered over the last six years.

Forgot to mention I tried programming my own simple backup utility. Kind of put it aside because of recent school projects.
Title: Re: Don't use Windows 7 legacy Backup on Windows 10
Post by: aetios on February 24, 2016, 12:23:55 AM
Wait, so, did you lose anything?
Title: Re: Don't use Windows 7 legacy Backup on Windows 10
Post by: Dream of Omnimaga on February 24, 2016, 12:28:15 AM
That sucks Brentmaas. To be honest, though, I didn't know that Windows 7 legacy Backup existed until tonight. Is it built-into 10?

Also nice to see you again brentmaas.
Title: Re: Don't use Windows 7 legacy Backup on Windows 10
Post by: brentmaas on February 24, 2016, 12:34:28 AM
Quote from: aeTIos on February 24, 2016, 12:23:55 AM
Wait, so, did you lose anything?
It was a fresh disk, so no, fortunately :).

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on February 24, 2016, 12:28:15 AM
That sucks Brentmaas. To be honest, though, I didn't know that Windows 7 legacy Backup existed until tonight. Is it built-into 10?
Yeah it comes with Win10, probably for simplifying upgrades.

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on February 24, 2016, 12:28:15 AM
Also nice to see you again brentmaas.
I was lurking here all along  :ninja:.
Title: Re: Don't use Windows 7 legacy Backup on Windows 10
Post by: Dream of Omnimaga on February 24, 2016, 12:51:57 AM
The name sounds like it's to downgrade back to Windows 7.
Title: Re: Don't use Windows 7 legacy Backup on Windows 10
Post by: brentmaas on February 24, 2016, 03:51:42 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/eNCHBpY.jpg)
Oh well... Time to try and find the receipt again...
Title: Re: Don't use Windows 7 legacy Backup on Windows 10
Post by: aetios on February 24, 2016, 04:10:44 PM
Wow, that's harsh. Do you think it was a bad disk to begin with, or is W7LB really at fault?
Title: Re: Don't use Windows 7 legacy Backup on Windows 10
Post by: novenary on February 24, 2016, 04:12:50 PM
Hmmm, maybe you just bought a faulty disk ?
Edit: ninja'd.
Title: Re: Don't use Windows 7 legacy Backup on Windows 10
Post by: brentmaas on February 24, 2016, 10:25:34 PM
My epic quest for the receipt continues. I'll just have it replaced with Intenso (the manufactorer) when I find it.
Title: Re: Don't use Windows 7 legacy Backup on Windows 10
Post by: aetios on February 25, 2016, 09:21:42 AM
"Watch out!", they cried to Brent, as the dust dragons encircled his head, preparing to attack his precious respiratory system. Brent quickly glanced, then attacked them with a vacuum cleaner.... The battle was short, but fierce. Brent had won. Relieved, he headed to the Mountains of Cloth to continue his quest for the Receipt of Disks...
Title: Re: Don't use Windows 7 legacy Backup on Windows 10
Post by: brentmaas on February 25, 2016, 09:51:15 AM
Quote from: aeTIos on February 25, 2016, 09:21:42 AM
"Watch out!", they cried to Brent, as the dust dragons encircled his head, preparing to attack his precious respiratory system. Brent quickly glanced, then attacked them with a vacuum cleaner.... The battle was short, but fierce. Brent had won. Relieved, he headed to the Mountains of Cloth to continue his quest for the Receipt of Disks...
That made me laugh xD
Title: Re: Don't use Windows 7 legacy Backup on Windows 10
Post by: DarkestEx on February 25, 2016, 10:09:55 PM
I cannot confirm this at all. I did successful backups with this and my external Toshiba HDD is just fine. It just creates some container file and does not mess with the MBR at all.