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Poll
Question: So.... what OS do you use??
Option 1: Windows 10
Option 2: Windows 8
Option 3: Windows 7
Option 4: Windows XP, Vista or older
Option 5: Linux
Option 6: Mac OS
Option 7: Other
Title: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: kotu on April 05, 2017, 02:41:32 AM
Just wondering what OSes people on here use.

You are allowed up to 2 votes each.
Title: Re: What OS do you use??
Post by: Yuki on April 05, 2017, 02:49:18 AM
My main computer is on macOS 10.12, the rest usually runs Arch Linux. I have a few WinXP VMs running I can work with, but nowadays, I mostly use them to play Solitaire.
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: Hooloowalrus on April 05, 2017, 03:03:00 AM
TI-OS 2.53
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: kotu on April 05, 2017, 03:04:13 AM
lol - i knew this would happen
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: Hooloowalrus on April 05, 2017, 03:09:17 AM
My real answers are Gentoo and Debian unstable, with a couple other minor unices in there.
Title: Re: What OS do you use??
Post by: kotu on April 05, 2017, 04:31:38 AM
Quote from: Juju on April 05, 2017, 02:49:18 AM
My main computer is on macOS 10.12, the rest usually runs Arch Linux. I have a few WinXP VMs running I can work with, but nowadays, I mostly use them to play Solitaire.

So anyway yeah I have been using XP for a while now, it has not been supported on windows update for some time now, but i put up with that, but now it looks like the updates for Microsoft Security Essentials (MS' antivirus/antimalware suite) are being cancelled. I don't think I can put up with that. So I will probably be upgrading to windows 10 soon.

*edit*
If you are wondering why I have been using XP, one of the main reasons is so I can play some older games (specifically the MechCommander and MechWarrior series). I am going to be keeping my XP drive in its current state so I can revisit them  :D
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on April 05, 2017, 04:45:35 AM
At school:
1992-97: Windows 3.1
1997-98: Windows 95
1998-2001: Windows 95 and 98
2001: Windows 3.1, 95 and 98
2001-03: Windows 98
2003-04: Windows NT 4.0, 2000, Mac OS 9.1 and 9.2.2
2004: Windows NT 4.0, XP, Mac OS 9.1 and Mac OS X

At home:
2004: Windows 2000
2004-10: Windows XP
2010-13: Windows XP and Seven
2013-16: Windows Seven
2016-present: Windows 10
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: Yuki on April 05, 2017, 04:51:10 AM
I owned mostly every version of Windows (3.1, 95, 98, 2000, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 8.1) at one point or another, except Windows 10 for some reason. Either the free upgrade completely failed or I stopped owning a computer that supported a recent version of windows.
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on April 05, 2017, 04:53:42 AM
@Juju what OS did your last school library, main lab and secondary lab (that one room with older computers from TIM class) use during your last time there? And what about your university and the other schools before?
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: Yuki on April 05, 2017, 05:15:37 AM
For school, let's see...

1996-2001: some sort of DOS
1996ish-2003: Windows 95/98
2002-2013: Windows XP
2010-probably forever: Windows 7
2007-2014: Various Linux distros students installed on school computers
2014-2016: Mac OS X
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on April 05, 2017, 10:36:04 PM
To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if some Quebec elementary schools still used Windows 98.
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: gameblabla on April 06, 2017, 01:25:32 PM
I'm using Ubuntu with heavy modifications (OSSv4, Jwm, Upstart) as my main OS.

Before that, i was using Windows XP but then i became victim of a rattler so i decided to make the switch. :<
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: semiprocoder on April 06, 2017, 03:24:31 PM
I use windows 10 and the UI is much neater, but I wish that microsoft would release dx 12 for windows 7 cause win 7 allows for much greater control over privacy features and the like. Also I hate all the random windows apps that are installed on my computer like "get office." Thanks microsoft.
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: gameblabla on April 06, 2017, 03:25:35 PM
Quote from: semiprocoder on April 06, 2017, 03:24:31 PM
I use windows 10 and the UI is much neater, but I wish that microsoft would release dx 12 for windows 7 cause win 7 allows for much greater control over privacy features and the like. Also I hate all the random windows apps that are installed on my computer like "get office." Thanks microsoft.
You always have Vulkan on Windows 7. That's why Star Citizen switched to Vulkan instead of DX12 even on Windows.
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on April 06, 2017, 04:19:15 PM
What is a rattler gameblabla?
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: gameblabla on April 06, 2017, 04:41:20 PM
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on April 06, 2017, 04:19:15 PM
What is a rattler gameblabla?
Someone who uses a RAT (remote administration software) in order to spy on unsuspecting users. (most of the time, lil' girls)
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: Switchblade on April 06, 2017, 10:10:57 PM
Quote from: semiprocoder on April 06, 2017, 03:24:31 PM
I use windows 10 and the UI is much neater, but I wish that microsoft would release dx 12 for windows 7 cause win 7 allows for much greater control over privacy features and the like. Also I hate all the random windows apps that are installed on my computer like "get office." Thanks microsoft.

Can't you uninstall those?  Anyways, nowhere as many as most android phones have!   :D
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: Yuki on April 07, 2017, 07:26:35 AM
Quote from: Switchblade on April 06, 2017, 10:10:57 PM
Anyways, nowhere as many as most android phones have!   :D
That's what happen when you let OEMs install your operating system on your hardware. On Windows, of course you can reinstall a fresh copy and get rid of everything, but on Android it's a bit harder. You can't uninstall those apps without rooting. At least in some cases you can flash another clean ROM.
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on April 08, 2017, 05:51:30 PM
Quote from: gameblabla on April 06, 2017, 04:41:20 PM
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on April 06, 2017, 04:19:15 PM
What is a rattler gameblabla?
Someone who uses a RAT (remote administration software) in order to spy on unsuspecting users. (most of the time, lil' girls)
I swear I heard of that in hi school. IIRC a teacher mentioned that once, saying if he suspects a student to procastinate, he might monitor his public computer usage.
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: Yuki on April 08, 2017, 07:01:13 PM
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on April 08, 2017, 05:51:30 PM
Quote from: gameblabla on April 06, 2017, 04:41:20 PM
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on April 06, 2017, 04:19:15 PM
What is a rattler gameblabla?
Someone who uses a RAT (remote administration software) in order to spy on unsuspecting users. (most of the time, lil' girls)
I swear I heard of that in hi school. IIRC a teacher mentioned that once, saying if he suspects a student to procastinate, he might monitor his public computer usage.
Teachers can and will do that. Computer labs usually have the software to do that.
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: WholeWheatBagels on April 08, 2017, 09:42:20 PM
You forgot ChromeOS (https://codewalr.us/Smileys/cwsmileys/trollemoticon.gif)
Chromebooks are pretty good tho in all seriousness, super fast and not much overhead. That said, it is basically just running Chrome, thats it.

Quote from: Juju on April 08, 2017, 07:01:13 PM
-- [quote snip]
Teachers can and will do that. Computer labs usually have the software to do that.
Our school-issued chromebooks have the Hapara extension installed for that reason
[spoiler]but ofc I have figured out how to uninstall it  >:D  the hacker in me comes out
(In theory it's not supposed to be able to be removed)
Go ahead,   arrest me....
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: Switchblade on April 08, 2017, 10:26:58 PM
Chromebooks have a ton of limitations, don't they?
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: WholeWheatBagels on April 09, 2017, 06:44:17 AM
They can only run chrome apps / extensions, so no programs really. No PC games or anything, just browser based stuff.

Google drive / docs is your MS word, excel, powerpoint, etc.
You can run (most) android apps through sideloading, though; lots of stuff can be done that way.
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on April 09, 2017, 04:20:59 PM
Quote from: Switchblade on April 08, 2017, 10:26:58 PM
Chromebooks have a ton of limitations, don't they?
And Best Buy and Staples used to try to pass them off as regular laptops to unsuspecting customers over here when they first got introduced. <_< People were like ZOMGOMGOMGZORZ A $200 LAPTOP BUY BUY BUY NOW NOW NOW!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: Yuki on April 09, 2017, 06:15:32 PM
Well, at least it was a bit obvious it's not a gaming computer and it's designed for those who only use Word/Internet.
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: _iPhoenix_ on April 09, 2017, 07:38:35 PM
Mac is bae, Mac is crap.

Seriously.

I get like 1200 frames in MC, but it's still crap.
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: p2 on April 10, 2017, 12:18:44 AM
Mc on a MacBook mostly sucks because java on macOS is far from running smooth. At that point I'd rather blame the Java devs than the MacBook dev guys ;)
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: c4ooo on April 10, 2017, 02:33:52 AM
But you should really  blame yourself for not running windows 7 on a 16 threaded water cooled cpu and the latest gtx GPU for a couple more hundred then your macbook cost. :ninja:
/me runs
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: p2 on April 10, 2017, 08:05:10 AM
well I get 32 fps on 64 chunks max sight distance with shater and texturepack, so I'm fine  :thumbsup:
and I'd like to see u using ur tower pc for hours straight in the train or other public transport thingys <_<
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: c4ooo on April 10, 2017, 04:22:53 PM
Quote from: p2 on April 10, 2017, 08:05:10 AM
well I get 32 fps on 64 chunks max sight distance with shater and texturepack, so I'm fine  :thumbsup:
Wait really? I thought you said it ran poor lol xD
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: p2 on April 10, 2017, 11:03:53 PM
it should run about 3 or 4 times faster.
Also the FPS drops to 5-10 when I press E to view the inventory or press ESC to get to the menu...
For whatever reason Menus are a loooot more resource intensive than the game (crappy game code).

Also Look at this beauty I got trying to setup Java, pretty much sums it up:
(https://img.ourl.ca/Bildschirmfoto%202017-01-25%20um%2020.13.27.png)
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: _iPhoenix_ on April 10, 2017, 11:17:03 PM
Guys, I seriously can get 1200 fps, that's not a typo.

I just have a this (http://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/mac-pro?afid=p238%7Cs91VOqy3p-dc_mtid_1870765e38482_pcrid_52243311850_&cid=aos-us-kwgo-pla-mac--slid--product-MD878LL/A)
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: c4ooo on April 11, 2017, 12:05:08 AM
Quote from: _iPhoenix_ on April 10, 2017, 11:17:03 PM
Guys, I seriously can get 1200 fps, that's not a typo.

I just have a this (http://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/mac-pro?afid=p238%7Cs91VOqy3p-dc_mtid_1870765e38482_pcrid_52243311850_&cid=aos-us-kwgo-pla-mac--slid--product-MD878LL/A)
"3.0GHz 8-Core Intel Xeon E5 processor
16GB 1866MHz DDR3 ECC memory
Dual AMD FirePro D700 with 6GB GDDR5 VRAM each
256GB PCIe-based flash storage1"
$4000

vs
Intel 7700k -  4.50 GHz, 8 threads - $350
water cooler - $100
mobo - $ 150-250
gtx 1080 ti founder's edition - $700 (the best-est GPU)
256Gb M.2 SSD - $250
1 tb hdd - $50 (?)
16 gb of DDR4 ram - around $130
case - $50-100
total - 2055

You could save more with a 16 threaded AMD CPU, and a slightly less over-the-top GPU.

/me runs
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: p2 on April 11, 2017, 12:45:54 AM
what kind of monster are you, betting an hdd anstead of an ssd for a computer that's going to be blessed with a 1080?  :ninja:

also yay my server got 2x Xeon as well, but no graphics card  :P
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: _iPhoenix_ on April 11, 2017, 01:38:37 AM
It seems I linked the wrong one XD, I have the USD2k one :P
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: Unicorn on April 12, 2017, 10:24:18 AM
If you like macs, why not build a pc and then uh, hackintoah? :P but also, you should be able to select at least three, cuz what if you boot Win10, mac, and linux all on the same computer???
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: kotu on April 13, 2017, 04:49:28 AM
i thought 2 would be enough..... if you use 3, just select the 2 you use most.... that was my thinking.
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: Alvajoy123 on April 13, 2017, 02:44:45 PM
i use Windows 10 because it much easier move through file and much easy to program on
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: p2 on April 20, 2017, 01:16:20 AM
The file explorer has almost no changes...?
But what script editors do you use? :)
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: Strontium on April 20, 2017, 03:27:07 AM
Currently rollin' Fedora on my Mac, going to install Void Linux on my new laptop once it arrives.
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: aeTIos on April 20, 2017, 05:07:46 PM
Quote from: Unicorn on April 12, 2017, 10:24:18 AM
If you like macs, why not build a pc and then uh, hackintoah? :P but also, you should be able to select at least three, cuz what if you boot Win10, mac, and linux all on the same computer???
Quote from: kotu on April 13, 2017, 04:49:28 AM
i thought 2 would be enough..... if you use 3, just select the 2 you use most.... that was my thinking.
I took the liberty to edit the poll to allow for 3 selections.
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: kotu on April 21, 2017, 12:57:14 AM
I took the liberty of installing Windows 10 on my main machine  8)  it's nice
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: Switchblade on April 21, 2017, 01:06:37 AM
I use several operating systems.  I normally run Windows 10, Ubuntu and Kali Linux nearly the same, Zorin OS very little, and Pinguy OS, Elementary OS, and RemixOS pretty much nil.  All except Windows 10 are VM's though  :blah:
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: Unicorn on June 07, 2017, 04:57:01 AM
Quote from: Switchblade on April 21, 2017, 01:06:37 AM
I use several operating systems.  I normally run Windows 10, Ubuntu and Kali Linux nearly the same, Zorin OS very little, and Pinguy OS, Elementary OS, and RemixOS pretty much nil.  All except Windows 10 are VM's though  :blah:
Does an andriod OS in a vm run well, @Switchblade?
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: Switchblade on June 07, 2017, 01:25:21 PM
Quote from: Unicorn on June 07, 2017, 04:57:01 AM
Quote from: Switchblade on April 21, 2017, 01:06:37 AM
I use several operating systems.  I normally run Windows 10, Ubuntu and Kali Linux nearly the same, Zorin OS very little, and Pinguy OS, Elementary OS, and RemixOS pretty much nil.  All except Windows 10 are VM's though  :blah:
Does an andriod OS in a vm run well, @Switchblade?

I tried running RemixOS in Virtual Box because it is supposed to be several times faster than Bluestacks. However, due probably to restrictions or something, I could not sign in with my Google account to test apps.  The OS itself seem to run kinda slow even though I gave it 4 GB of ram.  I think it would run a lot better in a dual boot.  There are also plain Android x86 vm downloads.

http://www.osboxes.org/virtualbox-images/ (http://www.osboxes.org/virtualbox-images/)

Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: DJ Omnimaga on June 07, 2017, 01:43:30 PM
Would it run well on a first gen i7 PC with 8 GB of RAM?
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: Switchblade on June 08, 2017, 01:01:22 AM
RemixOS would work best if you booted it from a usb stick on the computer.  I don't know that much about it, but I have found over time that OSs always run slower in virtual box.
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: gameblabla on June 08, 2017, 06:15:32 AM
QuoteRemixOS would work best if you booted it from a usb stick on the compute
I can confirm. In fact, i would recommend you install it on a partition.
I was never able to run any virtualisation solutions at decent speed.
The only one that worked, QEMU, has slow graphics and Android-x86/RemixOS still do not support Virgil3D.
Anbox requires systemd and it's still is a proof-of-concept.

Android-x86 when installed on a real PC, is really smooth.
Even using the Intel integrated graphics, it will mostly likely run over a lot of phones in terms of power.
AMD GPUs work best with Android-x86 as the Mesa drivers are supported.

Quote from: xlibman on June 07, 2017, 01:43:30 PM
Would it run well on a first gen i7 PC with 8 GB of RAM?
Absolutely, but not through a VM.

Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: Yuki on June 08, 2017, 06:27:53 AM
I guess it's because VMs emulates a s***-tier graphics card, isn't it? I know you can boost the VRAM in VirtualBox and tick things like 2D acceleration on, have you tried that? I think the VRAM is 16 MB by default, no way Android would work with that.
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: gameblabla on June 08, 2017, 06:56:35 AM
Quote from: Juju on June 08, 2017, 06:27:53 AM
I guess it's because VMs emulates a s***-tier graphics card, isn't it?
Yup, and Android-x86/RemixOS do not support Virgil3D so 3D host gpu so you're stuck with crappy graphics.

QuoteI know you can boost the VRAM in VirtualBox and tick things like 2D acceleration on, have you tried that? I think the VRAM is 16 MB by default, no way Android would work with that.
Well, i could not get it to work properly (not with Virtualbox anway). When it did, it was very slow, even with 3D acceleration and increased VRAM.
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: Unicorn on June 08, 2017, 08:32:44 AM
I know remix runs really well on a partition, but was wondering if a vm is the right way to go. (vms are to slow in my experience.) Just that sswitching from windows to remix is annoying.
Title: Re: What OS do you use?? (poll)
Post by: Yuki on June 08, 2017, 08:42:55 AM
By experience, most Androids based on Android-x86 don't even need a folder. IIRC you just dump the folder in the root of your Windows partition, then you make the necessary changes in your bootloader.