[TI-83+/84+][TI-82][TI-83] HoustonTracker 2 on-calc music editor

u/Yuki October 08, 2015, 08:18:07 PM

Quote from: Ivoah on October 08, 2015, 04:05:02 PM
Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on October 08, 2015, 06:26:25 AM
Also Houston Tracker 2 is that large for a reason: It has many features.

He said that it's so large because it saves data back into the program instead of an AppVar or something.

So we can't easily export and share songs with others in a native format?

Otherwise, I tried it, that's a pretty nice software.

u/Dream of Omnimaga October 09, 2015, 04:47:24 AM

So I was messing around with this in WabbitEmu in 83+ mode and for some reasons it seems to freeze quite often. Could it be the emulator or the fact I was using OS 1.16? Also, on OS 2.53 MP on the 84+ notes takes forever to play. For example with 8 F-4 notes followed by G-2 at speed 10, what I hear is the first note, then some weird noises in the background.

EDIT: Nevermind I figured out the second problem: I need to use all 4 channels per row.

I am now curious about what would be the best drums

Last Edit: October 09, 2015, 05:48:08 AM by DJ Omnimaga

u/utz October 09, 2015, 11:51:47 AM

@Juju: Not yet. I do however plan to release a PC-based utility which will allow you to extract and manipulate the internal savestates.

@DJ Omnimaga: Hm, as much as I would like to blame WabbitEmu, I can't rule out completely that there is a problem with OS 1.16. Quite a bit of testing has been done with OS 1.17, which appears to be stable so far. Would you be willing to give it a try in tilem2, to see if the issue persists?

u/Dream of Omnimaga October 09, 2015, 06:53:15 PM

Something to convert songs to MP3, OGG or WAV would be great. I use Audacity in Stereo Mix mode but fewer and fewer people got that option on their computers.

Also TilEm for Windows lack sound support, unlike the Linux version. I tries the latest exe a few months ago and no sound option was available. So far it seems like I have no issue with OS 2.53MP, though, other than a few occasional freezing. I just have to savestate often.

u/Yuki October 09, 2015, 07:06:19 PM

I tried the latest SVN on OS X and I can't find the sound option either.

u/Dream of Omnimaga October 10, 2015, 03:34:01 AM

What I'm thinking is that sound support was added for Linux, but then FloppusMaximus and the other people in charge of TilEm pretty much disappeared, leaving other versions without the additions. I wonder if the Linux version could be recompiled for Windows/Mac or something?

u/Yuki October 10, 2015, 03:35:17 AM

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on October 10, 2015, 03:34:01 AM
I wonder if the Linux version could be recompiled for Windows/Mac or something?

That's exactly what I did.

u/Dream of Omnimaga October 10, 2015, 03:40:28 AM

Oh but you said you got the version from OS X (Mac), not Linux.

u/Yuki October 10, 2015, 03:43:41 AM

I said I tried it on OS X. Actually, I think it's the same code for all three OSes anyway. If it works only on Linux, it's probably because it only works with the Linux sound system and automatically gets disabled when compiled on other OSes.

u/Dream of Omnimaga October 10, 2015, 03:46:18 AM

Well your two posts contradicts each others. One of your post says you used the Mac OS X version, then you suddenly say you used the Linux version. Unless you mean that the Linux and Mac versions are identical?

u/Yuki October 10, 2015, 03:48:18 AM

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on October 10, 2015, 03:46:18 AM
Unless you mean that the Linux and Mac versions are identical?

That's exactly what I meant. The Linux version can be compiled on Mac without problems. Probably even on Windows too.

u/Dream of Omnimaga October 10, 2015, 03:54:12 AM

Oh ok. I guess that clears things up then. I am curious about why it still lacks sound, then. Perhaps the author said the Linux version got sound added, but finally never pushed the changes.

u/DarkestEx October 10, 2015, 08:34:19 PM

@utz you really did a great job with the sequencer. But I really think you should make a save format. It shouldn't be hard saving the program state to a file and retrieving the data from there later.

u/Dream of Omnimaga October 10, 2015, 09:00:57 PM

That could be handy for people who wants to reuse the data in other softwares or people who wants to share song files easier.

Also is it possible to duplicate or clone note sequences and copy+paste one row in the sequencer? That could be handy when we got two similar sequences of notes with just one different note and the other idea for when we have multiple similar song sections.