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I want to make chiptune music

Started by DarkestEx, June 12, 2016, 06:51:35 PM

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DarkestEx

Update on the keyboard:

So I managed to break off a mounting bracket for one black key what really really bothers me. I also soldered most of the midi interface and bought a midi to usb adapter.
I had my first actual paid keyboard lesson yesterday and it was really great fun :D
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Make sure to not accidentally break your keyboard right away through some soldering or modding accident. It would suck since this voids the warranty. >.<

Nice to see progress, though :)
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DarkestEx

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on June 23, 2016, 04:31:38 PM
Make sure to not accidentally break your keyboard right away through some soldering or modding accident. It would suck since this voids the warranty. >.<

Nice to see progress, though :)
The key is fixed now and I completely disassembled it now.
Warranty, yes, right. Private eBay auction from the United Kingdom for a keyboard that is now 30 years old.
I'm quite certain the warranty is gone since I got it ;)
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Oh right, it's an Ebay keyboard. Disregard the warranty thing then. :P But still, don't break it beyond repair by accident lol. It would suck since you wanted to make chiptunes and learn piano for quite a while.
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utz

#34
A bit late to the party, but here's some inspiration for the aspiring Yamaha chiptuner:
https://chippanze.bandcamp.com/album/cp066-andrea-the-android

In any case, good luck with adding MIDI!

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on June 23, 2016, 12:57:26 AM
Oh ok. I was starting to get ideas lol.

Well, I used to live in Manitoba after all :D

Btw, the tracker list on my blog is usually up to date (maybe 1-2 weeks behind sometimes, but I do my best to keep track of all new releases). But it includes only trackers that are in (more or less) active development. There are many, many more ;) Anyway, new in today: TIATracker (for the Atari 2600 :D)
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Nice, I should check your list out. Also were you born in Manitoba? Go Jets Go by the way :P
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garvalf

This PSS-270 artist is good :)

Now for something different, I have a friend who made a dungeon-synth demo with only a tiny yamaha PSS-50 keyboard (it was recorded live as there is no midi on this one as well) : https://maelifell.bandcamp.com/album/demo-1996 (there is also a cover of the great CPC game Iron Lord)

I find the raw, simple, sounds very suitable for this kind of music (you can't edit the sounds on the pss-50).
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Old mini-keyboards are fun. I wish my bro didn't dismantle his when he was kid (he was very into piling up electronic parts for no reason back then :P). But I guess we couldn't have done much with it since it had no audio-out. Some mini keyboards just use premade samples rather than sounds produced by the chip, but I like them too if they don't sound too close to MIDI samples.

Also That Bandcamp music you just posted would fit very well in some RPG I think (I could see this in a Wizardry type clone). It sounds a bit like Sega Master System (the Japanese version of the console that had the FM chip) and some early 16-bits games.
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garvalf

Funny, I didn't know the master system in Japan had a FM chip, it was the YM2413 which is a low cost opl2.
Btw at the moment I'm composing a track for Sega Master System, I've discovered Deflemask vgm export can be replayed on a regular Sega Genesis / Megadrive


For old keyboard, it seems quite easy to install an audio out, like on this video : https://youtu.be/EfE7FQaaJa4?t=2m20s
Maybe you know this video as well:

On the bandcamp music (Maelifell), the PSS-50 has a YM7137 chip, it seems to be FM (only the drum is pcm)
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DarkestEx

Quote from: garvalf on June 26, 2016, 03:15:02 PM
For old keyboard, it seems quite easy to install an audio out, like on this video : https://youtu.be/EfE7FQaaJa4?t=2m20s
Maybe you know this video as well:
Funny how I initially included the second video into my first post until that one didn't post correctly and got lost.
It's the video that got me I this entire project.
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garvalf

it's almost magical when he begins to play the Ultima VI music...  :love:
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DarkestEx

Quote from: garvalf on June 26, 2016, 07:14:11 PM
it's almost magical when he begins to play the Ultima VI music...  :love:
Indeed  :love:
But the bells sound great too :D
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Quote from: garvalf on June 26, 2016, 03:15:02 PM
Funny, I didn't know the master system in Japan had a FM chip, it was the YM2413 which is a low cost opl2.
Btw at the moment I'm composing a track for Sega Master System, I've discovered Deflemask vgm export can be replayed on a regular Sega Genesis / Megadrive


For old keyboard, it seems quite easy to install an audio out, like on this video : https://youtu.be/EfE7FQaaJa4?t=2m20s
Maybe you know this video as well:

On the bandcamp music (Maelifell), the PSS-50 has a YM7137 chip, it seems to be FM (only the drum is pcm)
Thanks for the link. I'm not good with my hands and soldering but I'll check this out to see if I could implement this on my other keyboard that hasn't been used for 15 years.
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DarkestEx

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on June 26, 2016, 10:25:33 PM
Quote from: garvalf on June 26, 2016, 03:15:02 PM
Funny, I didn't know the master system in Japan had a FM chip, it was the YM2413 which is a low cost opl2.
Btw at the moment I'm composing a track for Sega Master System, I've discovered Deflemask vgm export can be replayed on a regular Sega Genesis / Megadrive


For old keyboard, it seems quite easy to install an audio out, like on this video : https://youtu.be/EfE7FQaaJa4?t=2m20s
Maybe you know this video as well:

On the bandcamp music (Maelifell), the PSS-50 has a YM7137 chip, it seems to be FM (only the drum is pcm)
Thanks for the link. I'm not good with my hands and soldering but I'll check this out to see if I could implement this on my other keyboard that hasn't been used for 15 years.
You'll get this done ;)
It's not as hard as it might look.

Update on my keyboard:
Looks like its now cleaned and assembled again.
I also had some more keyboard lessons and start to learn how to play it.
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Dream of Omnimaga

Cool, if you manage to play some cool stuff (even if simple), post some clips on Soundcloud and here so we can hear. :)
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