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TI-84 Plus CE first informations + discovery of the TI-Charging Station CE

Started by critor, January 13, 2015, 06:12:25 PM

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critor

TI-France just announced today its TI-83 Premium CE, the french version of the TI-84 Plus CE.

The TI-83 Premium CE page is revealing much more information, information which is valid for both models. Among them :
  • The Asm() command is still there
  • The new TI-Connect CE is going to include a program editor.
Source - in french for now : http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=175812#p175812

Dream of Omnimaga

  • Calculators owned: TI-82 Advanced Edition Python TI-84+ TI-84+CSE TI-84+CE TI-84+CEP TI-86 TI-89T cfx-9940GT fx-7400G+ fx 1.0+ fx-9750G+ fx-9860G fx-CG10 HP 49g+ HP 39g+ HP 39gs (bricked) HP 39gII HP Prime G1 HP Prime G2 Sharp EL-9600C
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Keoni29

When people said it was fast did they mention anything about screen refresh?
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Dream of Omnimaga

I really hope that at least the screen refresh speed is faster.

ALso for some reasons I always thought that the new 84 was TI-84 Premium CE. I am unsure why I kept calling it like that lol. Anyway I'M glad that it still supports Asm() and that TI Connect is gonna have an editor again.

From the pictures I saw and the news, it seems like TI is now trying to compete against the HP Prime. I guess we will have to see the real calculator speed to really see if that's the case, though. If stuff still takes a while to load, then it probably won't be to compete against the Prime, but otherwise, HP will really have to move their debugging one step higher to stay in the race.

With the 84+CSE, my issue is not necessarily that BASIC games are slow, because it's not the main use for the calculator. It's the fact that even for legitimate school use the calc is still slow enough to make it unuseable at times. For example, with MathPrint enabled, it takes 0.5 seconds to type a character on the home screen.  :banghead: Plus graphing many equations takes as long as other Z80 models, while on the Nspire and HP Prime it's instant.
  • Calculators owned: TI-82 Advanced Edition Python TI-84+ TI-84+CSE TI-84+CE TI-84+CEP TI-86 TI-89T cfx-9940GT fx-7400G+ fx 1.0+ fx-9750G+ fx-9860G fx-CG10 HP 49g+ HP 39g+ HP 39gs (bricked) HP 39gII HP Prime G1 HP Prime G2 Sharp EL-9600C
  • Consoles, mobile devices and vintage computers owned: Huawei P30 Lite, Moto G 5G, Nintendo 64 (broken), Playstation, Wii U

Dream of Omnimaga

TI officially announced the TI-84 Plus CE now and started sending e-mails about it:
http://education.ti.com/en/us/products/calculators/graphing-calculators/ti-84-plus-ce/tabs/overview

Nothing new, except that it seems that the calc will have 154 KB of user RAM, not 150, and it will be available in 7 colors.

However, the new calculator comparison chart no longer lists the TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition. It appears that this calc will have gotten a short-lived life, after all, since the TI-84 Plus CE appears to replace it. Maybe the TI-84+CSE was like a beta of the TI-84+CE, much like how some people considered the TI-83+SE as a beta of the TI-84+SE? Or maybe its short-lived life is the result of many student complains about slow typing, refreshing and menu scrolling?

See comparison chart:  http://education.ti.com/en/us/product-resources/graphing_course_comparision (let's hope they got it right, unlike last time :P)

Source: http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=176432

Also Cemetech had an interview with Peter Balyta about the new calculator: http://www.cemetech.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11163 . This Cemetech news also reveals a much longer battery life, perhaps months of normal use, thanks to a deep sleep mode. I hope it doesn't mean like the Nspire going out of standby mode, because it takes about 1 minutes to reboot a TI-Nspire.
  • Calculators owned: TI-82 Advanced Edition Python TI-84+ TI-84+CSE TI-84+CE TI-84+CEP TI-86 TI-89T cfx-9940GT fx-7400G+ fx 1.0+ fx-9750G+ fx-9860G fx-CG10 HP 49g+ HP 39g+ HP 39gs (bricked) HP 39gII HP Prime G1 HP Prime G2 Sharp EL-9600C
  • Consoles, mobile devices and vintage computers owned: Huawei P30 Lite, Moto G 5G, Nintendo 64 (broken), Playstation, Wii U

Dream of Omnimaga

Ok, it appears that Europe will get the TI-84 Plus CE-T instead of the TI-84 Plus CE. Not sure what's different from the American model, but it doesn't have the same keypad as the 83 Premium CE: http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=15940&lang=en

I'm hoping that Flash APPs developed for one model will work on the other and that the CE-T model won't have fewer RAM/archive. Remember what they did with the Nspire CM/CM-C in China with the fewer RAM.


EDIT: According to TI's pages it shares the same RAM/Archive as the 84+CE/83PCE.
  • Calculators owned: TI-82 Advanced Edition Python TI-84+ TI-84+CSE TI-84+CE TI-84+CEP TI-86 TI-89T cfx-9940GT fx-7400G+ fx 1.0+ fx-9750G+ fx-9860G fx-CG10 HP 49g+ HP 39g+ HP 39gs (bricked) HP 39gII HP Prime G1 HP Prime G2 Sharp EL-9600C
  • Consoles, mobile devices and vintage computers owned: Huawei P30 Lite, Moto G 5G, Nintendo 64 (broken), Playstation, Wii U

Keoni29

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Dream of Omnimaga

We'll probably know for sure this spring.

Unless commercial verdions of ythe calc cannot be opened, like the 360 O.O
  • Calculators owned: TI-82 Advanced Edition Python TI-84+ TI-84+CSE TI-84+CE TI-84+CEP TI-86 TI-89T cfx-9940GT fx-7400G+ fx 1.0+ fx-9750G+ fx-9860G fx-CG10 HP 49g+ HP 39g+ HP 39gs (bricked) HP 39gII HP Prime G1 HP Prime G2 Sharp EL-9600C
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T.Wang

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on January 30, 2015, 03:11:03 PM
We'll probably know for sure this spring.

Unless commercial verdions of ythe calc cannot be opened, like the 360 O.O

What's the 360?
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Wow my last post was totally butchered by mobile keypad typos. Oh well. Anyway I meant the Xbox 360. You need to buy a special, third-party tool online or make your own in order to open your console. But in the future, I wouldn't be surprised if companies soldered both the faceplate and the back of their electronics so that we cannot open them without damaging the case.
  • Calculators owned: TI-82 Advanced Edition Python TI-84+ TI-84+CSE TI-84+CE TI-84+CEP TI-86 TI-89T cfx-9940GT fx-7400G+ fx 1.0+ fx-9750G+ fx-9860G fx-CG10 HP 49g+ HP 39g+ HP 39gs (bricked) HP 39gII HP Prime G1 HP Prime G2 Sharp EL-9600C
  • Consoles, mobile devices and vintage computers owned: Huawei P30 Lite, Moto G 5G, Nintendo 64 (broken), Playstation, Wii U

Duke "Tape" Eiyeron

Quote from: DJ Omnimaga on February 05, 2015, 06:10:00 PM
Wow my last post was totally butchered by mobile keypad typos. Oh well. Anyway I meant the Xbox 360. You need to buy a special, third-party tool online or make your own in order to open your console. But in the future, I wouldn't be surprised if companies soldered both the faceplate and the back of their electronics so that we cannot open them without damaging the case.

Ypu have to buy "special" tools to open up an iphone. You have to buy special screws to open your Nintendo carts. ...
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Dream of Omnimaga

Well, at least Nintendo carts had screws to open them. They were not soldered together or something.


Also, something I want to bring up:

In France, at Jarrety, the TI-83 Premium CE price is 88.88 euros. In USA, the retail price for the TI-84 Plus CE is $129.99. Here is the result in Canadian dollars:

TI-83 Premium CE: 126.83$ CAD
TI-84 Plus CE: 161.63$ CAD


If some French stores sell it for the same price as Jarrety and ships worlwide for not much more than US shipping, I am thinking I might go with the French model instead of the American one. After all, I no longer go to school and mostly use those things as hobbyist, so I don't mind if my calc doesn't comply with exams. In the end I'll just have more features for cheaper.
  • Calculators owned: TI-82 Advanced Edition Python TI-84+ TI-84+CSE TI-84+CE TI-84+CEP TI-86 TI-89T cfx-9940GT fx-7400G+ fx 1.0+ fx-9750G+ fx-9860G fx-CG10 HP 49g+ HP 39g+ HP 39gs (bricked) HP 39gII HP Prime G1 HP Prime G2 Sharp EL-9600C
  • Consoles, mobile devices and vintage computers owned: Huawei P30 Lite, Moto G 5G, Nintendo 64 (broken), Playstation, Wii U

Dream of Omnimaga

You probably remember that on the TI-84+CSE, there was a bug in OS 4.2 with the Menu() command causing option 8 and 9 to not work (showing up as ? instead). This bug was reported to TI in early 2013.

Eventually, OS 4.2 came out. It didn't even fix a single bug that was reported by Kerm on Cemetech. TI probably thought that those bugs only affects the hobbyist portion of their calculator users, which is about 1% of their calculator market share.


Well, for OS 5.0 on the TI-83 Premium CE and TI-84 Plus CE, guess what?






*drumroll*












It still has the Menu() bug! http://tiplanet.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11281&p=177472#p177468


Good job, TI!  :banghead: 9_9


EDIT: I'm willing to bed that this bug from the 1996 TI-83 (before almost every CodeWalrus member came to birth) is still present:

  • Calculators owned: TI-82 Advanced Edition Python TI-84+ TI-84+CSE TI-84+CE TI-84+CEP TI-86 TI-89T cfx-9940GT fx-7400G+ fx 1.0+ fx-9750G+ fx-9860G fx-CG10 HP 49g+ HP 39g+ HP 39gs (bricked) HP 39gII HP Prime G1 HP Prime G2 Sharp EL-9600C
  • Consoles, mobile devices and vintage computers owned: Huawei P30 Lite, Moto G 5G, Nintendo 64 (broken), Playstation, Wii U

Duke "Tape" Eiyeron

I'm born in '95. Yeah they just copy paste the ROM and tweak to change the I/O. Heh, minimal production cost :/
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