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Title: How to join #CodeWalrus IRC channel
Post by: xlibman on December 05, 2014, 12:51:06 am
UPDATED on January 8th 2016

#CodeWalrus IRC channel is available on the EFnet IRC network. EFnet is where most TI-related IRC channels (most notably, #Cemetech, #Omnimaga and Ticalc.org's channel #TI) are located, and a list of available servers is available at  http://www.efnet.org/?module=servers . The IRC channel is +s (secret) right now, so it won't show up when regular IRC users type /list in their client, but you should be able to join with no problem using your favorite IRC client, IRCCloud or Mibbit. If a server doesn't work for you, try another from the list.

You can also chat from WalrusIRC directly above the forums if you have 5 posts and higher, or from Telegram Messenger. Regardless of where you chat from, your messages will be automatically relayed between the IRC channel and the site shoutbox.

#CodeWalrus shall be a place to hang out for CodeWalrus forum members. We recommend that people who need calculator, programming or other kind of technical help use the forum, though, in case their query gets missed. More people will benefit that way, since it won't get lost in the logs.

In addition to #CodeWalrus, there are other CW IRC channels, also on EFnet:
#cw-anime: While our main channel allows anime discussion, it's recommended to use this smaller channel instead when #CodeWalrus is busy with programming discussion.
#cw-craft: CW Minecraft server IRC channel. You can chat with people in-game there or vice-versa.
#cw-spam: Bot-testing channel. This is *not* a flooding channel.

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Title: Re: #CodeWalrus IRC chatroom now available on three networks!
Post by: pimathbrainiac on December 05, 2014, 02:51:29 am
The post notifier is almost complete. I'll open source it in a bit.
Title: Re: #CodeWalrus IRC chatroom now available on three networks!
Post by: xlibman on December 05, 2014, 02:58:42 am
Yay! It also seems to work, but make sure it doesn't keep missing posts nor DoS the site by itself. Checking the RSS feed every 5 or 10 seconds shall be fine.


You should also make post notificiations more visible and looking more like posts like this:

(F)<NewWalrii> New Post! Re: #CodeWalrus IRC chatroom now available on three networks! | http://codewalr.us/index.php?topic=78.msg1285#msg1285

Instead of:

(F)<NewWalrii> Re: #CodeWalrus IRC chatroom now available on three networks! | http://codewalr.us/index.php?topic=78.msg1285#msg1285

Of course if we need to edit it on the server make sure to CHMOD it well enough so that all 5 staff can edit it. :P
Title: Re: #CodeWalrus IRC chatroom now available on three networks!
Post by: bb010g on December 31, 2014, 10:19:24 pm
What about a NOTICE?
Title: Re: #CodeWalrus IRC chatroom now available on three networks!
Post by: xlibman on January 01, 2015, 05:33:24 am
Most people have their IRC client set to show notices outside the channel (such as server tab), so they won't notice the new posts.
Title: Re: #CodeWalrus IRC chatroom now available on three networks!
Post by: xlibman on February 04, 2015, 11:51:50 pm
Hm it looks like the EFnet channel is no longer synced with the Omninet channel nor OmnomIRC, or there is some intense lag between both networks, so if any activity occured this afternoon on EFnet then it probably never appeared in W/OIRC nor the Freenode/Omninet channels.

Hopefully juju restarts the bot soon.

EDIT It appears that stuff sends from Omninet to EFnet, but with three to four minutes of lag, and stuff won't send at all from EFnet to Omninet.
Title: Re: #CodeWalrus IRC chatroom now available on three networks!
Post by: xlibman on March 31, 2015, 06:30:27 pm
Updated first post to reflect the server changes, since that topic is directly reachable from the site navigation.
Title: Re: How to join #CodeWalrus IRC channel
Post by: xlibman on June 09, 2015, 09:35:15 am
Note: In a not so distant future, we will discontinue Omninet support for our chat room, making #Codewalrus IRC channel EFnet-only, just like #Cemetech and #TI. We still need approval from @Duke "Tape" Eiyeron and @Juju for this, since it was only discusses with @Streetwalrus so far, but Only three people use the Omninet channel and the rest of the TI community has used EFnet since 1991. So I would recommend people such as @jamesguessis , @pimathbrainiac and @Sorunome to switch over to EFnet soon, to ensure they are not left behind if they want to continue idling in #Codewalrus.
Title: Re: How to join #CodeWalrus IRC channel
Post by: Duke "Tape" Eiyeron on June 09, 2015, 02:55:40 pm
Why splitting from Omninet already?
Title: Re: How to join #CodeWalrus IRC channel
Post by: xlibman on June 09, 2015, 03:26:54 pm
Because we don't really get enough traffic from there to justify having to maintain WalrusIRC to support multiple networks and deal with the desyncing that occurs often on Omninet. Also, Omninet was originally not my idea. It came into existence after I stepped down from Omni, when they attempted to ditch EFnet completely (but had to keep both due to protests).

I was against switching Omninet a month ago because we still had some users using it, but now we only have 3 left and 2 of them idle on #Cemetech , which is on EFnet. But of course it requires approval of juju and yourself as well.
Title: Re: How to join #CodeWalrus IRC channel
Post by: Juju on June 09, 2015, 04:48:06 pm
I think Omninet was my idea, or at least I was in the founding members. I thought of it so we can have an IRC network for the entire TI community and everyone could have a channel for their project. But, well, as we all know, the community is kinda reticient moving from EFNet, CodeWalrus is among the only projects who bothered even having a channel there besides #omnimaga itself, and, well, you know the Omni admins, the network also attempted to be kinda Omni-centric.

Yeah, that kinda failed, save for #omnimaga who have quite a few people there. So, either let it die or promote the hell out of Omninet.
Title: Re: How to join #CodeWalrus IRC channel
Post by: xlibman on June 09, 2015, 06:15:19 pm
Actually, I think a bit of the problem is that people from other sites were probably worried about losing users by moving from long-established channels, and back then, Omni still had the old rules that CW now has to a certain extent, so admins of other sites were probably worried that those rules would partly be applied to other site channels like Cemetech, TI, etc, resulting into partial  loss of control of the channels. It's also hard to convince 3 big channels, especially one where some people considered Omnimaga as arch rivals, to move from a network of 60000 users to your own network of 30 users.

I didn't know back then that the goal was to have a TI community network, though. I was sure the network was meant for Omnimaga IRC discussions.
Title: Re: How to join #CodeWalrus IRC channel
Post by: Streetwalrus on June 09, 2015, 10:11:55 pm
That's what it came down to. Eeems even stripped the #omnimaga-* from the channel names on Omninet. :/
Title: Re: How to join #CodeWalrus IRC channel
Post by: xlibman on June 10, 2015, 12:14:34 am
Oh right, I forgot about that. Good thing redirects were implemented.
Title: Re: How to join #CodeWalrus IRC channel
Post by: Streetwalrus on June 10, 2015, 08:03:59 am
Yeah but still. For him Omninet=Omnimaga network. It's a neat network but not enough users and definitely no non Omnimaga users.
Title: Re: How to join #CodeWalrus IRC channel
Post by: Duke "Tape" Eiyeron on June 10, 2015, 05:38:05 pm
Well, so, drop it? Efnet seems fine at the moment and I'm not using Omninet neither, so...
Title: Re: How to join #CodeWalrus IRC channel
Post by: xlibman on June 10, 2015, 05:43:59 pm
By the way, the only issue I can see about EFnet is that sometimes, some servers are annoying and will not let you connect or will ban you for no reason, but there are 40+ EFnet servers available and there are always many that will let you connect. The other downside is the 9 characters nickname lenght. But Omnimaga channel stayed EFnet-only for almost 3 years before finally being relayed to an Omninet one and it wasn't that much of an issue. The only reason why I moved it from EFnet entirely in 2006-Early 2009 is because we lacked a botnet and knew nobody trustable enough to lend us one.
Title: Re: How to join #CodeWalrus IRC channel
Post by: Juju on June 10, 2015, 10:39:29 pm
Well yeah, Omninet has a Chanserv and half-ops and stuff, but who needs that when you have a good botnet?
Title: Re: How to join #CodeWalrus IRC channel
Post by: xlibman on June 22, 2015, 06:38:05 am
So yeah, I updated the first post. While the Omninet channel is still available for the time being, the post now only mentions EFnet and WalrusIRC.
Title: Re: How to join #CodeWalrus IRC channel
Post by: xlibman on January 08, 2016, 09:16:59 am
Bump:

I updated the main post to include our secondary channels, since this topic is in the site navigation. This means #cw-anime, #cw-craft and #cw-spam. Of course anime talk is still allowed in #codewalrus, but we got a lot of anime fans so #cw-anime can get handy to avoid cluttering the main chat during busy times, plus it has the extra benefit of being on EFnet. #cw-craft is basically the Minecraft server chat and #cw-spam is a bot testing channel.
Title: Re: How to join #CodeWalrus IRC channel
Post by: STV on January 19, 2016, 11:32:48 am
@Juju & DJ Omnimaga, were you really following the rules this morning at 9 ? :trollface:
Title: Re: How to join #CodeWalrus IRC channel
Post by: CVSoft on May 06, 2016, 04:35:42 am
Quote from: WalrusIRC
*   notipa has quit IRC (Quit: BosaikNet http://www.bosaik.net) (http://www.bosaik.net))

WIRC thinks the parenthesis is part of the link, making the link unusable.
Title: Re: How to join #CodeWalrus IRC channel
Post by: xlibman on May 06, 2016, 04:39:36 am
Actually that would probably go in the CodeWalrus tools sub-forum (which is where WalrusIRC progress/downtime reports are posted), but let's poke @Juju about it

I gained the habit of always adding spaces after links a decade ago personally, though, because many IRC clients and shoutboxes, as well as forum softwares, thought that periods and stuff were parts of website links :P
Title: Re: How to join #CodeWalrus IRC channel
Post by: aeTIos on May 07, 2016, 08:14:20 am
Quote from: WalrusIRC
*   notipa has quit IRC (Quit: BosaikNet http://www.bosaik.net) (http://www.bosaik.net))

WIRC thinks the parenthesis is part of the link, making the link unusable.
Like DJ said, I'd work around this by adding a space. Many applications have space-terminated URL rules.
Title: Re: How to join #CodeWalrus IRC channel
Post by: Snektron on May 07, 2016, 09:05:18 am
You can also use that satanic regex someone on stackoverflow made. but i think urls only allow [a-zA-Z\-] anyway.
Title: Re: How to join #CodeWalrus IRC channel
Post by: aeTIos on May 07, 2016, 09:06:24 am
Nah, they can have special characters. For example wikipedia urls often have ( ) in them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_(mind_game)
Title: Re: How to join #CodeWalrus IRC channel
Post by: Snektron on May 07, 2016, 09:08:22 am
Oh good point. Then its the fault of their IRC client :P
Title: Re: How to join #CodeWalrus IRC channel
Post by: xlibman on May 07, 2016, 04:12:01 pm
Now that you mention special characters, I guess it could be hard for juju to fix the issue first mentioned above, since this could cause URLs that have parentheses in them to not be completely parsed. I noticed this happened in some clients before. >.<
Title: Re: How to join #CodeWalrus IRC channel
Post by: Juju on May 07, 2016, 04:21:46 pm
Yeah, the thing with automatic URL parsing, some special characters like () are legal in URLs so the client doesn't really know where to end.
Title: Re: How to join #CodeWalrus IRC channel
Post by: Ti64CLi++ on July 01, 2016, 01:20:24 pm
If I want post a message in the chat, I must have posted five posts? That is true?
Title: Re: How to join #CodeWalrus IRC channel
Post by: Snektron on July 01, 2016, 01:25:26 pm
After 5 times the chatbox appears on the site, but i think you can use the channel from another client anyway
Title: Re: How to join #CodeWalrus IRC channel
Post by: Ti64CLi++ on July 01, 2016, 01:44:50 pm
Ok, thanks for this fast response ;)
Title: Re: How to join #CodeWalrus IRC channel
Post by: xlibman on July 01, 2016, 04:25:46 pm
Yeah, the site shoutbox requires 5 posts, but you can join via IRC long before that, on EFnet network.