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Title: Historic Go game being played between Google and the world champ, who will win?
Post by: Yuki on March 09, 2016, 04:04:58 AM
20 years after the world champion of chess has been defeated to a computer, will Google do the same for a game way more complicated than chess, the ancient Asian game of Go?

Watch the livestream below and place your bets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFr3K2DORc8
Title: Re: Historic Go game being played between Google and the world champ, who will win?
Post by: Dream of Omnimaga on March 09, 2016, 04:25:42 AM
Darn, that game had quite a strong following on MaxCoderz forums way back in 2005. I noticed it became popular again recently after nearly being forgotten for some reasons. I didn't know they had any form of competition of it.
Title: Re: Historic Go game being played between Google and the world champ, who will win?
Post by: Yuki on March 09, 2016, 04:46:10 AM
Yeah, it's very popular in Asian countries (Japan, China, Korea) as much as chess is popular here in Occident, and of course there's competitions of it. Except go games are way more complicated and hard than chess. The ranks in go are pretty similar to karate and other Asian martial arts, so the world champion is professional 9th dan.
Title: Re: Historic Go game being played between Google and the world champ, who will win?
Post by: Dudeman313 on March 09, 2016, 05:13:35 AM
I bet anyone on the site an HP Prime or its worth that Google loses.
Title: Re: Historic Go game being played between Google and the world champ, who will win?
Post by: Adriweb on March 09, 2016, 08:53:21 AM
Quote from: Dudeman313 on March 09, 2016, 05:13:35 AM
I bet anyone on the site an HP Prime or its worth that Google loses.
Uh oh, Google/AlphaGo won its first match so far :P
Title: Re: Historic Go game being played between Google and the world champ, who will win?
Post by: CVSoft on March 09, 2016, 09:03:01 AM
I've already accepted my robot overlords, as long as they run on Windows XP.
Title: Re: Historic Go game being played between Google and the world champ, who will win?
Post by: Dudeman313 on March 09, 2016, 10:30:12 AM
So who won?
Title: Re: Historic Go game being played between Google and the world champ, who will win?
Post by: aetios on March 09, 2016, 11:33:07 AM
The pc won the first match. There's 5 matches though.
Title: Re: Historic Go game being played between Google and the world champ, who will win?
Post by: alexgt on March 09, 2016, 01:00:30 PM
Wow that is cool O.O
Title: Re: Historic Go game being played between Google and the world champ, who will win?
Post by: Yuki on March 09, 2016, 04:54:42 PM
Yeah, it's pretty crazy, Before AlphaGo, the best program could barely win against a low-level pro player with 5 handicap stones. And then AlphaGo came with its deep learning technology (the same one used by this Google program that produces trippy LSD-induced images) and goes on to win against the world champions without handicap.
Title: Re: Historic Go game being played between Google and the world champ, who will win?
Post by: Snektron on March 09, 2016, 05:24:27 PM
I personally think neural nets are one of the coolest things you can make :o. Too bad they're so hard to make aswell :P
Title: Re: Historic Go game being played between Google and the world champ, who will win?
Post by: Dream of Omnimaga on March 10, 2016, 08:25:01 AM
That reminds me that computer AI that won at Jeopardy.
Title: Re: Historic Go game being played between Google and the world champ, who will win?
Post by: Yuki on March 12, 2016, 09:56:15 PM
Yeah, Watson, it wasn't as complicated though, it just had a few encyclopedias, including Wikipedia, whole in RAM and just searched them fast enough to have a good answer. (Fun fact, it broke and began spitting inappropriate answers out after being fed Urban Dictionary.)

Anyway, for the Go game, it's 3-0 (out of 5 games) as of this night, meaning a computer program has officially won against the world champion, a feat experts didn't thought happening before a few years.